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Originally Posted by vi3t_boy View Post
very nice result. I could upgrade to this when AM3 come out.
DDR3 is only going to yield 5% more performance. RAM really won't be worth the price tag. Unless you want the increased HT speed.
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post #42 of 49
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DDR3 is only going to yield 5% more performance. RAM really won't be worth the price tag. Unless you want the increased HT speed.
it's not that bad of a price as of now, and about 5 months from now, it will be DDR2 price, DDR will be gone, and DDR2 will be overpriced because of supply and demand.
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post #43 of 49
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No, not including that, because that's not the cost of the i7. That's the cost of a system. You instantly twisted your argument from the cost of the chip to the cost of a system based on that chip.


There's no doubt a simple CPU upgrade is cheaper, but some people hold onto their machines until the point where that isn't viable. I came from a dead-end socket (939) with DDR and AGP8x. There's absolutely no reasonable upgrade option from that. It was all given up on a year after release. Intel held onto their socket for 5 years before completely changing how their CPU interfaces with the board, what more do you want?
Unlike everyone else, I don't actually have a particular problem with i7. I remember how much the AMD FX series used to cost, it was insane. I think that the i7 920 and cheapest x58/cheap DDR3 are actually a very good price for the performance.

775 was around for a good long time, a socket switch was bound to happen sooner or later.



It is really hard to say exactly what will happen when the AM3 Phenoms come out. I know there will be market adjustments but it is hard to say by who and in what direction.

No matter how you look at it though, it is shaping up to be an incredible chip, at least good enough for AMD not to being considered a badge of shame (by some at least, I don't really care).
post #44 of 49
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DDR3 is only going to yield 5% more performance. RAM really won't be worth the price tag. Unless you want the increased HT speed.
People need to quit talking about performance until real performance numbers come out, not some German or Chinese site or numbers pushed out there by AMD. The i7 didn't prove anything untill it came out, so will deneb.
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People need to quit talking about performance until real performance numbers come out, not some German or Chinese site or numbers pushed out there by AMD.
german or chinese sites usually have some of the best reviews as they are the first to get the products. it's a geographical advantage. plus, the german and chinese languages are just as "authentic" as the english one...
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german or chinese sites usually have some of the best reviews as they are the first to get the products. it's a geographical advantage. plus, the german and chinese languages are just as "authentic" as the english one...
OT: I'd trust Germans, Australians and British other than North Americans but that's pretty much it. But yeah regardless of what language it's in, the real reviews come about 2 weeks after release.
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post #47 of 49
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german or chinese sites usually have some of the best reviews as they are the first to get the products. it's a geographical advantage. plus, the german and chinese languages are just as "authentic" as the english one...
I was trying to use that as an example as some small ace site in the corner of the internet putting out some numbers. I know one German site had correctly listed the specs on ATI's 4 series cards like 6 months before they were released.
post #48 of 49
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I was trying to use that as an example as some small ace site in the corner of the internet putting out some numbers. I know one German site had correctly listed the specs on ATI's 4 series cards like 6 months before they were released.
so why dish on it and say AMD was behind these benchmarks?
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post #49 of 49
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so why dish on it and say AMD was behind these benchmarks?
I wasn't talking about the article. I quoted the one guy saying that the ddr3 version had a 5 percent increase. It's as if this is general consensus, like the processor has been out for awhile. How would you know this if you saw one site claiming this as a fact before AMD said they were shipping out cpu's for review sites to test.

Also I think that one site was speculating anyways but people still use it as a source for their claimed fact. Personally I think it'll be more then a 5 percent jump from am2+ to am3 because I think am2+ is just going to bottleneck the processor.
Edited by mr.derp - 12/16/08 at 7:19pm
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