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cf 4850's will outperform.
WRONG!!!!!!
http://forums.vr-zone.com/showthread.php?t=366673
ez proof, THE NEW NVIDIA DRIVERS KILL!!!!!
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Where is your proof?

Working in retail I've seen more 9400's and HD4670 through the HD4870 sell than GTX260's or GTX280's. Actually I haven't seen any of those sold this month, and it's the xmas rush. One exception would be the GTX260 216core, but the number of those sold is still pretty bad.

To sell the GTX260 and GTX280, we lose money. That's how much the market lowered the value of these cards. Nvidia thought they were going to ride through this generation on the (and I mean this) nothing short of amazing 8 series. They were wrong about what ATI was going to release, and they were wrong in what they thought people would pay to have the green team inside their computer. They screwed up and cost a lot of money to their partners and to their vendors.

Is Nvidia selling better than ATI? I'd say probably not, if they are it's because of 8400 and 9400 sells, not the GTX line.
By this you're referring to sales in the 8400GS and 9400GS?
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Think for a moment. How many OEM systems do you see with low-mid range ATI cards? Very few, am I right? The sales figures do come from the number of units shipped from a given manufacturer. The advantage Nvidia has here is with the partnerships. The high end GPU sales make up a small percentage of the overall figures, ya know?
    
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Think for a moment. How many OEM systems do you see with low-mid range ATI cards? Very few, am I right? The sales figures do come from the number of units shipped from a given manufacturer. The advantage Nvidia has here is with the partnerships. The high end GPU sales make up a small percentage of the overall figures, ya know?
More than you think.

nVidia used to have a good lowend coverage, but following the HD2400, 2600, 3400, 3650 and their mobility parts, they've been used more in notebooks since.

Oh, and ever since the nVidia notebook scare, look forward to more Mobility 43/45/4600s used in NBs, and in the next year the 4670 will saturate Dell/HP boxes as it doesn't need a power connector.


Trust me, OEM sales helped ATI get over the HD2k/3k without being scratched that badly (AMD was the major losing part)
    
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By this you're referring to sales in the 8400GS and 9400GS?
I'm saying that the GTX series is not selling. The higher end ATI and mid range/low cards from both companies is what is selling.
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well look at it this way, the highest ati card u can get will be bottlenecked because the fastest AMD cpu cant even beat my overclocked e5200!!
You're not thinking straight, are you?
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WRONG!!!!!!
http://forums.vr-zone.com/showthread.php?t=366673
ez proof, THE NEW NVIDIA DRIVERS KILL!!!!!
That's not proof. I could make similar charts showing my new GPU, the roflhax9001 scores 200fps higher than the GTX295. "Publish.it186.com" is not a trusted website.
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Newegg's got the $112.50 HD4850's back in stock too
, etc...



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That's not proof. I could make similar charts showing my new GPU, the roflhax9001 scores 200fps higher than the GTX295. "Publish.it186.com" is not a trusted website.
geez alright http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3408&p=4
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