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I used to like them until I joined OCN and realized that they fail pretty badly, lol. I guess their building guides aren't too bad but they should really stop trying to attract the high-enders.
Same. Their biased towards nVidia makes me wonder if they sponsor them or something (They probably do).
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Is that why my far cry 2 runs at 40 avarage fps while with higher end cpu's they reach 60/70?
cant see any difference over 30 anyway so it dosent matter
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cant see any difference over 30 anyway so it dosent matter
point is, it increases OVER 1-2 frames.
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cant see any difference over 30 anyway so it dosent matter
sixty my friend, thirty FPS doesn't look at all smooth to me
    
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The numbers look very in line with what I have been expecting. It would have been even better if it had Core 2 and Core i7 results in there as well.

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And my prediction that a certain large group of people on OCN are not going to post in this thread and it will just die. For *ahem* unspoken reasons.
If you pat yourself on the back any harder for stating the obvious (aka parroting AMD's promo slides) you may sustain a spinal injury.

Either way I seem to remember a week or so ago that Deneb wasn't even going to match yorkfield.... hmmmm.

I don't trust these benches any more than I trust first hand accounts from XS members... although you seem to trust them very much because they support your argument. If there were benches that showed extraordinary Phenom II numbers where the reviewer admitted to having massive hardware troubles, you would have been crying foul.

I already have stated several times in several threads (along with many other level headed folk) that Deneb will fall in between yorkfield and i7, nearly matching i7 in some applications and barely keeping up with yorkfield in others. It's Ok though, if you want to take credit as the only one that has said that I'll let you have it.
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theoretically, the human eye cannot detect frame rate differences above about 24 fps. however, spikes happen, and thats when you notice. to me, i would rather have a constant 20-30 fps then something that will spike up and down from 30-70 fps. consistency = good
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If you pat yourself on the back any harder for stating the obvious (aka parroting AMD's promo slides) you may sustain a spinal injury.

Either way I seem to remember a week or so ago that Deneb wasn't even going to match yorkfield.... hmmmm.

I don't trust these benches any more than I trust first hand accounts from XS members... although you seem to trust them very much because they support your argument. If there were benches that showed extraordinary Phenom II numbers where the reviewer admitted to having massive hardware troubles, you would have been crying foul.

I already have stated several times in several threads (along with many other level headed folk) that Deneb will fall in between yorkfield and i7, nearly matching i7 in some applications and barely keeping up with yorkfield in others. It's Ok though, if you want to take credit as the only one that has said that I'll let you have it.
My personal expectations and beliefs have nothing to do with anybody else. I was not trying to take credit for anything.

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theoretically, the human eye cannot detect frame rate differences above about 24 fps. however, spikes happen, and thats when you notice. to me, i would rather have a constant 20-30 fps then something that will spike up and down from 30-70 fps. consistency = good
I was being sarcastic, by the way. Not only can the human eye see above 30fps, but there is in fact no known limit to how high of a framerate it can really detect. The highest tested limit is 220fps, though.
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I was being sarcastic, by the way. Not only can the human eye see above 30fps, but there is in fact no known limit to how high of a framerate it can really detect. The highest tested limit is 220fps, though.
detecting is one thing. making a difference is another. people dont complain that movies are shot at around 24 fps
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detecting is one thing. making a difference is another. people dont complain that movies are shot at around 24 fps
Movies are pre rendered, and they can use motion blur to make the frames appear fluid. Motion blur can not be used in games because it doesn't work when you are the one controlling what frames are rendered by what you do in the game.

And no, the motion blur in Unreal Engine 3 and CryEngine 2 and a few others is not the same as the kind in movies. What games call "motion blur" is really just another word for ghosting the frames (similar to an LCD but much more visible).
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Yeah crysis uses motion blur that's why the game is pretty playable at 30fps.


All other games, 60fps or bust. At around 49fps I start to get annoyed, dropping below 40 is just for me
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