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post #71 of 150
that's horrible, i cant believe the father was able to forgive him
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Wait, what? I read through the articles, but could not find the part where it described the kid's upbringing in detail. You have no idea what his parents did or didn't do. I know people who weren't allowed to watch R movies or play bad games, but their parents were fine about normal things. Our society is very violence-friendly - some people just choose to help their kids avoid it. If you can point out where the dad was an oppressive ***hole, I'll apologize, but as far as I can tell, the only thing that the dad did wrong was restrict Halo. He didn't even restrict buying the system! Just Halo. The kid is a snowboarder. He has an XBOX360. He has friends and is allowed to go visit them. His love life wasn't brought up. These are the things I got from the article.
It's an assumption. I am not him, neither are you. we don't know what his life was like before this. but it does say his father was an evangelist. I guess it's a little bit of prejudice against the overly religious. But again, I don't disagree that the kid is totally screwed in the head and deserves whatever he gets
post #73 of 150
I bet hes pissed that he wont get to play Halo 3 Recon next year L.M.F.A.O!!!!!!!!!!!
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Wow.

He shouldn't be allowed to live.
    
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post #75 of 150
wau.....this is just.....wau they should just give him a death penalty....17 is old enough......once you kill you wave your rights as a civilized beign


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Since when is H3 sexually explicit?
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post #76 of 150
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Originally Posted by Desidero View Post
Wait, what? I read through the articles, but could not find the part where it described the kid's upbringing in detail. You have no idea what his parents did or didn't do. I know people who weren't allowed to watch R movies or play bad games, but their parents were fine about normal things. Our society is very violence-friendly - some people just choose to help their kids avoid it. If you can point out where the dad was an oppressive ***hole, I'll apologize, but as far as I can tell, the only thing that the dad did wrong was restrict Halo. He didn't even restrict buying the system! Just Halo. The kid is a snowboarder. He has an XBOX360. He has friends and is allowed to go visit them. His love life wasn't brought up. These are the things I got from the article.
Exactly. The moral fiber of this country is so far gone. The kid was in every way wrong. His dad was a minister/pastor. Every minister/pastor family that I know restricts violent games/movies and any movie that is Rated R from their kids. Their kids are not killers. Matter of fact, alot of the kids have no problem with any of the rules their parents enforce.

Kids are KIDS. When you turn 18, you are no longer a kid. I know there are some under 18 kids on this forum and they are probably the ones saying the stuff about the kid's dad. Take your daddy issues somewhere else. I know when I have a kid, he will not be allowed to have a stupid Myspace page, allowed to play violent games or be allowed to watch R rated movies. Does that mean my kids have a right to kill me one day?
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I bet hes pissed that he wont get to play Halo 3 Recon next year L.M.F.A.O!!!!!!!!!!!

Seriously, that's what you have to say?

You're an a##.
    
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Did you guys read the comments?

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Gpasser,
I agree, this is Unreal Tournament. It's a good thing he wasn't playing Grand Theft Auto- he may have used Molotov Cocktails. This was a Far Cry from a cry for help. They should send him to the Army, where he may be awarded the Medal of Honor for his bravery on the Battlefield. The Fallout for Daniel will be severe. After Ninety Nine Nights of being the main course at the Midnight Club in Grafton, and enduring the Feeding Frenzy of the prison Mercenaries, Daniel will have repaid his debt to Civilization.
Also, this kid didn't snap because he played Halo3, there are other issues. Obviously.
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*Shrug* We dont know if his parents were over-protective zealots, and really did mess him up or not. Seems like they were not, but you never get the whole picture in a news article. However, if he was allowed to get out even if only to other friends places, he probably would have had the opportunity to call child services or what not. Not sure how it works in america. Still a choice he could've made, instead of the choice he did make which was to kill two people. The fact that he tried to frame his dad implies he was probably at least somewhat 'sane' at the time.

And just because you could do whatever it is you are implying you could possibly do to someone over 16 years, does not mean you would do it. It could be the parents were cruel in some fashion, or it could be that he was unstable, dangerous, and this was the primary reason. That'd make sense wouldn't it? Kid is violent and dangerous, so the parents take away what they see as a potential influence. Unfortunately it did not work for them which is very sad, but the reasoning is there.
Mostly agreed. We have no reason to assume that the parents did anything wrong here. Having your parents take away a video game (or even ban video games in the house altogether) sucks when your growing up, but it's far from 'bad parenting' and even farther from 'ridiculous' as others have said. Denying video games to a child is a parent's choice to make and is hardly destructive. Even in the case of being homebound for a year, there are lots of alternatives to video games and TV for entertainment. I think this case is a classic example of addiction that gets way out of hand. The case against the parents here is pretty weak.

To clarify, since I can feel the flames coming already, I'm not making a case against video games either necessarily. This kid's actions demonstrate how deep into an addiction he was. This case stresses the importance of appropriate rules and regulations with games and being aware of a child's signs of addiction (to anything, not just games).

I'm not sure about people arguing that this kid was sane either. Isn't one of the hallmarks of insanity planning and executing something horrible like this without afterthought?

Just in closing: We are all told not to do things by are parents, and we are free to obey or disobey them, to go so far as to kill someone over denial of something so menial shows that you have a problem.
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Exactly. The moral fiber of this country is so far gone. The kid was in every way wrong. His dad was a minister/pastor. Every minister/pastor family that I know restricts violent games/movies and any movie that is Rated R from their kids. Their kids are not killers. Matter of fact, alot of the kids have no problem with any of the rules their parents enforce.

Kids are KIDS. When you turn 18, you are no longer a kid. I know there are some under 18 kids on this forum and they are probably the ones saying the stuff about the kid's dad. Take your daddy issues somewhere else. I know when I have a kid, he will not be allowed to have a stupid Myspace page, allowed to play violent games or be allowed to watch R rated movies. Does that mean my kids have a right to kill me one day?
no I am 20. you don't become and adult the day you turn 18. there is no difference man. people age at different rates. have fun sheltering your kid and having him go into the real world one day completely unprepared. You need to let kids be their own people. You are there to protect them from harm. You think half life is harmful?
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