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just a thought before you even consider buying the card. Is your motherboard PCI-E or AGP? I would assume it is AGP given its age.
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Yeah no problem. I remember I built my current computer exactly one year ago. It was nerve wrecking because I also didn't know where to start. But let my tell you, if you take your time and research the components its a very rewarding feeling once you are all done.

You might want to look up some cases if you want to go all the way with this build. Mid Tower is what most builders use. Full tower are a little bit bigger and offer more room to work with but are also more cumbersome.
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just a thought before you even consider buying the card. Is your motherboard PCI-E or AGP? I would assume it is AGP given its age.
no its pci-e 16x. (not 2.0 though)

Another thought I had though about installation, would I simply put it all together first, install Vista, get all the driver updates, then take it apart and install the new processor and get the bios updates for that? or how does that work.
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just a thought before you even consider buying the card. Is your motherboard PCI-E or AGP? I would assume it is AGP given its age.
Its PCI-E believe it or not. I was surprised. His Mobo has a 775 socket but only supports up 800mhz. It also has pci-e but only uses ddr. Its a special machine in many ways.
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no its pci-e 16x. (not 2.0 though)

Another thought I had though about installation, would I simply put it all together first, install Vista, get all the driver updates, then take it apart and install the new processor and get the bios updates for that? or how does that work.
At first it will seem a little overwhelming but its not that hard to tell you the truth. (I wish someone would have coached me back when I was building my guy )

Once you have all your components you start by making sure it posts. A post is when you first start the computer and see the motherboard's menu before xp or vista even loads. This step will only consist of your Ram, Mobo, and Videocard. This pretty much insures that you are getting power to these main components.

Once you see that it posts you add your hard drive and optical drive. After that you install your xp/vista. Drivers get installed right after you have fully installed the OS.

There some things in between like connecting fans, the on and off button, the reset button, hard drive led light, but all this is pretty simple, tedious but simple.
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Its PCI-E believe it or not. I was surprised. His Mobo has a 775 socket but only supports up 800mhz. It also has pci-e but only uses ddr. Its a special machine in many ways.
Yea, haha, This machine has served me well these past few years, still works perfectly fine, still runs fast, but is just simply out-dated now for the games I want to play. I beat the original Crysis on this rig on low/med settings, but decided I'd wait to play warhead until I had a rig that I could truly enjoy the visuals on. Besides Counter-Strike Source (30-50FPS on max), I play Age of Conan, I get decent FPS, but its mostly low graphics. So, I must move on. :'(

Damn I can't wait to order this and get it all set-up and running!
My 7600gt will continue its lifespan for a couple of months until I can afford the 9800gt which I will return so I can afford to buy the mobo/processor/ram.

My 7600gt is OC'd from 580/750 clocks to about 725/825. I haven't seen a higher OC for the card yet.
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no its pci-e 16x. (not 2.0 though)

Another thought I had though about installation, would I simply put it all together first, install Vista, get all the driver updates, then take it apart and install the new processor and get the bios updates for that? or how does that work.
First of all, your P4 isn't dead yet. Passing from a 7600GT to a 9800GT will certainly give a decent boost to your framerates, I wouldn't put out the gfx card purchase off just because of the CPU.

Now it is true the P4s weren't the best in regards to gaming, so a new DC CPU would do good; however everyone probably agrees with the fact the CPU upgrade wouldn't bring anywhere near as much FPS as the GPU upgrade.

Dx9 vs Dx10 - for now I'm with Dx9 though I had Vista for about a year and Dx10; Dx10 (for example) is the "Very High" settings in Crysis; if you followed the reviews, you need a monster rig to play Crysis on Very High, the fact you're able to (by having Vista) doesn't mean you'll actually play in Dx10 unless you're in for a slideshow.

As for the instalation it goes the other way around: get the BIOS updated (usually thry the floppy method if you don't have an OS installed), install the new CPU, install the OS and all the rest.

My 2 cents, hope it helped.
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Another thing to note. You only really need a bios update if you have a compatibility issue. For example, my motherboard couldn't support quad cores until after a new bios version came out. So in effect if you can boot up with your current hardware then you are good to go.

Some people around here update and revert bios constantly because there are certain versions of bios that are better at overclocking then others.
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First of all, your P4 isn't dead yet. Passing from a 7600GT to a 9800GT will certainly give a decent boost to your framerates, I wouldn't put out the gfx card purchase off just because of the CPU.

Now it is true the P4s weren't the best in regards to gaming, so a new DC CPU would do good; however everyone probably agrees with the fact the CPU upgrade wouldn't bring anywhere near as much FPS as the GPU upgrade.

Dx9 vs Dx10 - for now I'm with Dx9 though I had Vista for about a year and Dx10; Dx10 (for example) is the "Very High" settings in Crysis; if you followed the reviews, you need a monster rig to play Crysis on Very High, the fact you're able to (by having Vista) doesn't mean you'll actually play in Dx10 unless you're in for a slideshow.

As for the instalation it goes the other way around: get the BIOS updated (usually thry the floppy method if you don't have an OS installed), install the new CPU, install the OS and all the rest.

My 2 cents, hope it helped.
Hmm, yea I will still try the video card out before I return it, but If I don't see a satisfactory jump in framerates and still get slow texture loads in-game then I will return it. I don't even have a floppy drive, so how would that work? Also, at what point do I install the processor? or will the mother board not come with one so i just install it right at the beginning.
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Hmm, yea I will still try the video card out before I return it, but If I don't see a satisfactory jump in framerates and still get slow texture loads in-game then I will return it. I don't even have a floppy drive, so how would that work?
some motherboards let you update the bios through a usb stick. But like I said you probably won't have to do that.

edit: If you have anymore questions you can always PM me going to bed
Edited by Heavy Light 117 - 12/16/08 at 11:14pm
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