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And somehow, I think it's unlikely that ALL of these different websites and sources got together to make a bunch of fake benchmarks, all depicting the Phenom II in a positive light...especially if all of that can be dispelled and proven false in a matter of days/weeks. People need to get these conspiracy theories out of their head, like AMD paid people off to temporarily raise hype or something.
No, more like historically unreliable sources use it to gain revenue via ad dollars

Plus, I have seen three WILDLY varied core voltages for 3GHz if all these screenshots are to be believed.

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Um, I'm guessing after December 20 after the NDA lifts.
Yeah, because you know the NDA allows for screenshots, but no actual verification
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No one ever debated that, everyone knows i7 rocks in performance (not overall price). But the number-crunching crowd is a small minority.

I think whitecrane is hung up on AM3 (w/DDR3, AM3 mobos) for some reason, which would in fact reduce the price/value advantage AMD has. He fails to see enough merit in getting the AM2+/DDR2 setups, even though it's probably only 5-10% slower. He admits it's good bang for your buck, but still doesn't seem to care. *Shrug. Nothing can appeal to everyone, obviously.

BTW, if you can apply the "bang for your buck" label to a $200+ part, then that's still a good amount of "bang" to look forward to.
thank you for clearing that out, because i was starting to get irate lol
"bang for buck" merely refers to the performance per dollar. so even if the system was priced at 1,000,000; if it provided good performance, the "bang for buck" label is just as viable.
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No, more like historically unreliable sources use it to gain revenue via ad dollars

Plus, I have seen three WILDLY varied core voltages for 3GHz if all these screenshots are to be believed.



Yeah, because you know the NDA allows for screenshots, but no actual verification
Bah, OK. How about a simple "let's see" haha. I still think that these supposed bogus websites would get just as many hits if they were to show poor comparison benchmarks and such...

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thank you for clearing that out, because i was starting to get irate lol
"bang for buck" merely refers to the performance per dollar. so even if the system was priced at 1,000,000; if it provided good performance, the "bang for buck" label is just as viable.
Bang for your buck is always something to like, especially if we're talking high-end (but not bleeding edge). I guess some people need more.
Edited by smoothjk - 12/17/08 at 12:56pm
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I can attest to the fact that at least one of the benchmark in this review is false. They claim that a Phenom II 940 with a 4850 beats a QX9770 with a 4850 in Vantage.

That is impossible. The QX9770 scores 13000 on the CPU test, while the Phenom II 940 only scores 10000. You can verify this on the ORB if you don't want to take my word for it.

With that being the case, it makes me question the validity of all the other tests they've supposedly ran as well.
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sigh* x58 motherboards use DDR3 exclusively.790GX uses DDR2. 3x2gb are usually 250. 2x2x2GB is roughly 100 and you get more memory.and if you can find me a brand new x58 that costs anywhere near 100-130, than i will say that you are right and admit defeat. and if you think amd motherboards are crappy because they cost less, then i feel sorry for you. and if you don't think 800MHz is a good oc, then don't buy the i7 940...
First off, thank you for explaining to me that X58 uses DDR3 exclusively. I thought I could throw DDR2 in there and be okay.

As I've stated countless times now... I do not want an i7. I am evaluating Q9xxx and Phenom 2. Why is that so hard for you all to comprehend, when your obviously very well versed of the intricacies in hardware?

I don't want a Core i7!

For the 3rd time, I am comparing Phenom 2 with the Q9xxx. Yorkfield. NOT Nehalem.

X48 mobo, Q9xxx CPU, 4 GB of on sale high performance DDR2 RAM, and IMO all that will be same price as a Phenom 2 build, on an AM3 mobo. AM2+ is DEAD right???

If I'm wrong, tell me!

With either build, I'm throwing a 4870 on there to accompany my 4870x2 for 3 GPU's. I call that "Crossfire Y", instead of X.

ALSO, are any for the AMD chipsets as good at Crossfire as the famous X48 chipset is? X48 chipset is over 20% faster in Crossfire configurations!
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you cant use a q9xxx in a x58 board like you claim to be planning on doing

it uses a completely different socket
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you cant use a q9xxx in a x58 board like you claim to be planning on doing

it uses a completely different socket
1. LGA 1366 is backwards compatible with LGA 775. So Yes I can.

2. I backed off on using X58 mobo last post after seeing the cost of such boards and replaced with plans for an X48 mobo. The ASUS RAMPAGE for example.
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Meh... If Phenom II is launched in February, I'm just going with the Intel camp this time, i7 coming this way...
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Don't get me wrong, I'm all for "bang for the buck" but unfortunately I don't see Phenom II having enough bang to top a $1000 extreme i7
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If it comes close at 275 then I think that is good enough. Why is AMD releasing a great processor such a bad thing? Even intel fans can appreciate a good price drop can't they?
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