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Originally Posted by Daegameth View Post
Actually, you're paying for the limited license to use the that circular piece of plastic that happens to have music content on it.

Go RIAA!
Heh heh, I guess you got me there.
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post #22 of 82
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Actually, you're paying for the limited license to use the that circular piece of plastic that happens to have music content on it.

Go RIAA!
Yeah, getting taxed on a digital product that you down even own truthfully.

You get taxed on the physical aspect of the CD but not the music itself. A CD could have 50 songs on it and be $15.95 and another could have 15 and also be $15.95 but you get taxed the same.

I just wanna see some consistencey here.
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Yeah, getting taxed on a digital product that you down even own truthfully.
Well to follow this logic, they shouldn't be taxing us for services either. And they do. Whenever a "purchase" is made, taxes are likely to be involved.

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You get taxed on the physical aspect of the CD but not the music itself. A CD could have 50 songs on it and be $15.95 and another could have 15 and also be $15.95 but you get taxed the same.

I just wanna see some consistencey here.
Well, you're complaining about the price of the product here, not the taxes involved. Taxes are just a percentage of the purchase price. And purchase price is, theoretically, set by market value. In your example, one would assume that those 50 songs are old, not popular, or whatever, making the value of each much less; to the point where the value of 50 of them equates to the value of 15 new and popular songs. Obviously this is all just basic market theory, but you get my point.
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Because a cookie is not a product or service you are paying for. But if the web site charges you a fee to use their services, then they can and would charge you tax on that service.
What about the ISP that charges me a bill every month - Doesn't that technically mean that they are charging me to download cookies that I otherwise couldn't be capable of doing had it not been for their service? So that would mean that we are already being charged for doing it, erm..a flat rate to download unlimited cookies.
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Um, apparently the basics of "sales tax" aren't understood here. You actually should be charged for everything you buy whether it is offline or online.

Sales tax does not require a physical item, it requires a SALE of something (tangible or not). Note that services are taxed as well because they involve a monetary transaction.

You should be happy that you are currently NOT charged taxes for most online sales.
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Next up, New York taxes you for the amount of time you spend watching videos on youtube! So glad I don't live there. They get taxed for breathing.
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Next up, New York taxes you for the amount of time you spend watching videos on youtube! So glad I don't live there. They get taxed for breathing.
ISPs already do that with bandwidth caps. Your paying $30/month for 250GB worth of bandwidth and I'm sure they get taxed by whichever states that they operate in and they transfer the fee to us.
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I say... forget it, don't pay anything... let them suffer! The government, as it is today (federal, state, & local) are nothing more than corrupt & inept at getting anything positive done. Nothing like taxing the citizens and not accomplishing anything. Just line the pockets of those that do the most *****ing so they shut up, and be more oppressive to the citizens of the state. No longer is it "for the people, by the people" it is "for the corporations, CEOs & money-hungry politicians at the EXPENSE of the people". Nothing better than showing, time and time again that the system has failed!! Time to remove it, and start over, just like a giant etch-a-sketch!!
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This would encourage piracy.
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Before we begin, let me state very clearly that I hate paying taxes as much as the next guy. But that said, anyone who thinks that that "no taxes on internet purchases" is some fundamental right is just SO wrong. You actually already owe those taxes. The only reason it is not being collected is because the feds and the states have not gotten together to come up with a uniform way to charge appropriate taxes. In these days of shrinking tax revenues in every level of government, the fact that some localities are taking it upon themselves to do this should not be a surprise to anyone. And once this starts taking effect and generating revenue for those municipalities, you can effect everyone else to take notice and be far more open to drawing up that uniform sales tax methodology.

I know people get up in arms about this, but those of you that find this to be some crime against humanity need to grow up a little bit. Take advantage of the loophole while you can perhaps, but don't whine like spoiled kids when the loophole is eventually closed.



The digital copy of that song is a product you are paying for, and therefore clearly taxable. There is no difference between taxing digitally downloaded music and a CD...you don't pay $11.99 + tax for that circlular piece of plastic, you're paying for the content on that piece of plastic.



Because a cookie is not a product or service you are paying for. But if the web site charges you a fee to use their services, then they can and would charge you tax on that service.
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No State shall, without the Consent of the Congress, lay any Imposts or Duties on Imports or Exports, except what may be absolutely necessary for executing it's inspection Laws: and the net Produce of all Duties and Imposts, laid by any State on Imports or Exports, shall be for the Use of the Treasury of the United States; and all such Laws shall be subject to the Revision and Control of the Congress
http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html
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in Quill v. North Dakota (1992) the Supreme Court reaffirmed that the US Constitution granted exclusive power to the Congress to regulate interstate commerce and that individual states could not force companies in other states to gather state sales taxes.
http://www.suite101.com/article.cfm/392/34863
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quill_C...._North_Dakota
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