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i remember they where charging sales tax at newegg, that didnt last to long. so glad theres no sales tax now.
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Originally Posted by tensionz View Post
Lol why, you don't use iTunes already and you have to pay Newegg taxes. By that I rather stay in NY.
That is true, but have you ever ordered something from Newegg, with the standard shipping, at 8:00pm, and had it sitting on you doorstep the next morning?

Anyway, I'm saying they may start taxing other digital downloads too, and I would hate to live there once that happens.
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i remember they where charging sales tax at newegg, that didnt last to long. so glad theres no sales tax now.
Unless you live in a state where newegg has a warehouse, like I do.
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Before we begin, let me state very clearly that I hate paying taxes as much as the next guy. But that said, anyone who thinks that that "no taxes on internet purchases" is some fundamental right is just SO wrong. You actually already owe those taxes. The only reason it is not being collected is because the feds and the states have not gotten together to come up with a uniform way to charge appropriate taxes. In these days of shrinking tax revenues in every level of government, the fact that some localities are taking it upon themselves to do this should not be a surprise to anyone. And once this starts taking effect and generating revenue for those municipalities, you can effect everyone else to take notice and be far more open to drawing up that uniform sales tax methodology.

I know people get up in arms about this, but those of you that find this to be some crime against humanity need to grow up a little bit. Take advantage of the loophole while you can perhaps, but don't whine like spoiled kids when the loophole is eventually closed.



The digital copy of that song is a product you are paying for, and therefore clearly taxable. There is no difference between taxing digitally downloaded music and a CD...you don't pay $11.99 + tax for that circlular piece of plastic, you're paying for the content on that piece of plastic.



Because a cookie is not a product or service you are paying for. But if the web site charges you a fee to use their services, then they can and would charge you tax on that service.
I don't believe ANY sales tax is justified.

I get taxed 25% of what I earn, and then with what I have left, I get taxed 6-9% on everything I spend that on. How much easier would it be if they just tacked the 6-9% onto my income tax, and left all sales tax-free? Seeing $49.99 would actually mean I could use a $50 bill to pay for it. Then they could leave the whole internet alone and forget about taxing people online (except for imports/exports, which I do believe are justified).

Taxes on certain things is just terrible, they talk about all the starving and homeless people while they're busy taxing food and properties. Some states do not some of these taxes and they seem to do just fine by compensating for it in state income tax.
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Gives the illegal downloaders in NY one more reason to download illegally.
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Politics is one thing, but this is quite ridiculous. The state has no right to tax anything that it doesn't produce. You may or may not owe a "use tax" based on what state you live in, but enforcing that would be very difficult, and always has been. I'm not a big music downloader, but I actually do believe that you should pay for music that you download, and I've never downloaded a song for free. However, I don't agree with taxing it. What's next, a "data" tax? A blinking tax? An idea tax?

Very difficult to talk about this without getting political.

I can't remember the last time (if ever) the amount of taxes I pay seemed justified...
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" The most important ways in which I think the Internet will affect the big issue is that it will make it more difficult for government to collect taxes."

Milton Friedman

Why do so many people believe that we don't pay enough tax. It is more logical to assume that the government spends to much. Cutting spending is the only way to reduce deficit.
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" The most important ways in which I think the Internet will affect the big issue is that it will make it more difficult for government to collect taxes."

Milton Friedman

Why do so many people believe that we don't pay enough tax. It is more logical to assume that the government spends to much. Cutting spending is the only way to reduce deficit.
Your talking politics now Paul. I think cutting spending is good but at the same time you have to look at new ways to produce economic growth. Doesn't matter how much the government spends when there is no money comming in from the start anyway.

If you want to save the country a few billion a year, pull our soldiers out of Iraq; thats what I think.
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What about the ISP that charges me a bill every month - Doesn't that technically mean that they are charging me to download cookies that I otherwise couldn't be capable of doing had it not been for their service?
No, they are charging you for the privilege of using their ISP services. What you do with your internet service is up to you. And the ISPs have nothing to do with the web sites that are sending the cookies, too.

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I say... forget it, don't pay anything... let them suffer! The government, as it is today (federal, state, & local) are nothing more than corrupt & inept at getting anything positive done.
Speaking as an employee of state government, I would politely invite you to stop spouting nonsensical drivel that is clearly over the line of "political speech".

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in Quill v. North Dakota (1992) the Supreme Court reaffirmed that the US Constitution granted exclusive power to the Congress to regulate interstate commerce and that individual states could not force companies in other states to gather state sales taxes.
Yeah yeah, I know. But all you're pointing out is that the feds have to be the one who regulate/administer any national uniform sales tax. If a consortium of powerful states comes up with a good system, the feds will work with them, I'm sure. They would have to...state tax revenues really are through the floor, and internet sales have certainly played a non-negligible role in that.
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NY is tax raping almost everything.
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Bull, taxes already paid on the internet bill so wouldn't that be double taxing? I know they have to raise money somehow but it would make sense just to pull more tax money from taxing internet bills.
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