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Soon they'll be taxing EVERYTHING you download on the internet (Open source, etc.) and make people pay it on their internet bill. :\\
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Bull, taxes already paid on the internet bill so wouldn't that be double taxing? I know they have to raise money somehow but it would make sense just to pull more tax money from taxing internet bills.
It's not double taxing. If you're buying two things, you pay taxes on both things. ISP service is one thing, an MP3 from iTunes is the second thing.

Compare this to going shopping "for real", if it helps. You have to pay taxes when you buy your car, then you have to pay gasoline taxes to actually use your car to get to the store, then you have to pay taxes on whatever you buy at the store. By your argument, this would be "triple taxing"...but clearly it's not.

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Soon they'll be taxing EVERYTHING you download on the internet (Open source, etc.) and make people pay it on their internet bill. :
Open source software is freely available, it would not be a taxable purchase.

As someone already said, people don't seem to understand much about how taxes work around here. Before shouting and complaining about how this is the end of civilzation as we know it, I would really recommend that people learn a little more about taxes first. Otherwise you sound like you're whining about losing an entitlement, which is just a silly position to take.
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I am in NY and feel the overtaxed pain, now they want to do a soda tax to tax 15% on non-diet soda. Next will be all the fast food and everything else they feel is not healthy. NC here I come! Plus I am getting sick of the winters too.
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NC here I come! Plus I am getting sick of the winters too.
I hear that, I could see myself retiring to one of the Carolinas someday.
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post #45 of 82
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It's not double taxing. If you're buying two things, you pay taxes on both things. ISP service is one thing, an MP3 from iTunes is the second thing.

Compare this to going shopping "for real", if it helps. You have to pay taxes when you buy your car, then you have to pay gasoline taxes to actually use your car to get to the store, then you have to pay taxes on whatever you buy at the store. By your argument, this would be "triple taxing"...but clearly it's not.



Open source software is freely available, it would not be a taxable purchase.

As someone already said, people don't seem to understand much about how taxes work around here. Before shouting and complaining about how this is the end of civilzation as we know it, I would really recommend that people learn a little more about taxes first. Otherwise you sound like you're whining about losing an entitlement, which is just a silly position to take.
Don't you ever get tired of owning n00bs on OCN?
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post #46 of 82
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Originally Posted by fstfrddy View Post
I am in NY and feel the overtaxed pain, now they want to do a soda tax to tax 15% on non-diet soda. Next will be all the fast food and everything else they feel is not healthy. NC here I come! Plus I am getting sick of the winters too.
The "Obesity tax" is the name of that one, how ridiculous is that, and offensive. David Paterson is a tool for that one.

Also for people who smoke in NY and bought cigarettes from Native American reservations (to avoid sales tax obviously) can no longer do so because of David Paterson.

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The new law, scheduled to take effect in two months, will prohibit manufacturers from selling tobacco products without a state tax stamp to any wholesaler that doesn't certify the cigarettes won't be resold tax-free by New York tribes.
http://www.newsday.com/news/local/wi...0,840736.story

Taxation is really just a band-aid for much bigger problems, a temporary fix that doesnt really fix anything because the problem still exists. Our forefathers are rolling in there graves at the things we deal with today with the federal and state goverments.
Edited by Mattb2e - 12/18/08 at 7:52am
post #47 of 82
screw them... why does the gvmnt go fter litle people? Why not tax Apple directly? they made enough money, I would even be happy to see Apple go bankrupt....
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They are trying battle piracy yet do something like this... lol gj, I know the tax will be very little but still some people only need the slightest excuse.
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post #49 of 82
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Don't you ever get tired of owning n00bs on OCN?
Heh heh, well I honestly don't usually see it that way. Sometimes, but not usually, and not in this case. I'm usually just trying to debunk misconceptions and falsehoods, because we all know how often people believe what they read on the Internet whether it's true or not.

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screw them... why does the gvmnt go fter litle people? Why not tax Apple directly? they made enough money, I would even be happy to see Apple go bankrupt....
Why the Apple hatred? Anyway, Apple is getting taxed too, make no mistake. The Apple stores in NYC are subject to NYC's tax laws, for example.

If you're asking why they don't make Apple pay the sales tax for iTunes downloads...well, for one, that doesn't make much conventional sense. Sales tax is always paid by the purchaser, not the seller. The seller probably pays taxes on revenue made from that sale of course, depending on local tax laws.
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post #50 of 82
There is nothing inherently wrong with taxing a product.

Think of it this way, when you purchase for example windows vista. The tax you pay on your $150 purchase is for what? A dvd and some plastic packaging?

You are paying tax on intellectual property.

I don't see the issue with taxing music downloads. Musicians pay income tax on revenue generated through itunes sales so why shouldn't the product they are selling be taxed like all other products?
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