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I would like to pose a question to you.

Scenario:

- Boot sequence initialized, error message appears "NTLDR not found, Ctrl+Alt+Del to restart"

Started a few days ago, where it required unplugging my VelociRaptor and trying different SATA ports until it recognized both drives and booted properly. Ran a WD diagnostic to check the devices, both drives came through with flying colors.

Scenario #2:

- Boot sequence initialized, can't find either drive, asks for boot media to be inserted.

Tried the same musical chairs episode with my SATA connectors. Tried a variety of cable and slot combinations. Tried booting after CMOS was cleared once, no success. Tried more musical chair combinations. Reset the CMOS again as a last ditch effort, and it worked.

I do not have a spare system to test the drives on again or to test any other possible failing component. I've tried replacing the CMOS battery, but that didn't make any changes.

So, the question(s):

1) Is it really my motherboard failing as I suspected? (P5B-E, purchased in 12/2006)
2) If it is the motherboard, what could be a viable replacement? (I was suggested a P45 based motherboard, but I'm open to options)

I don't need a whole lot of features (besides the overclocking ones ) on the motherboard, I don't need an onboard RAID controller, I've got DDR2 memory, and an LGA775 CPU. I'm not going to be water cooling this motherboard either, so don't pick with that kind of stuff in mind.
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post #2 of 13
As for the booting issue, could very well be a mobo problem.


For a new Mobo:

If you're looking to overclock, just grab the UD3P

Awesome board.
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post #3 of 13
could also just be a unstable oc. Might try stressing again of running stock for a week to see if that alleviates the problem. ( i know you said you cleared the cmos, but it doesn't hurt to try)
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post #4 of 13
It's common for that board. I have the same problem with a P5B-VM SE in my htpc. You gotta back off the OC. That board is a lame duck when it comes to OCing. This may sound stupid, but with these P5B boards increasing the PCI-E frequency helps in stability. Try setting it to 105 or 110 and see what that does for you.

EDIT - try setting the pci-e frequency first, before backing off the OC.
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post #5 of 13
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I had the P5B at a 400FSB for about 18 months before any issues arose. I'd say that's pretty darned rock solid.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by afzsom View Post
I had the P5B at a 400FSB for about 18 months before any issues arose. I'd say that's pretty darned rock solid.
Like you said, it may be dying.
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post #7 of 13
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobotheklown View Post
As for the booting issue, could very well be a mobo problem.


For a new Mobo:

If you're looking to overclock, just grab the UD3P

Awesome board.
What's so special about this board? I haven't done research in over 2 years in the motherboard area, so all the help in the world is welcome.

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Originally Posted by kaivorth View Post
Like you said, it may be dying.
Ah, I was hoping it wasn't, but I suspected it.
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Here is some info on it:
http://www.overclock.net/intel-mothe...ing-guide.html

I've just heard it can hit 500 fsb without much harm. Also heard tons of good reviews.
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post #9 of 13
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High FSB isn't that big of a concern though, as my ram is a limitation (though that may be due to my current board's lack of options).
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Did you try upping the PCI-E frequency as I suggested?
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