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Originally Posted by JoeUbi View Post
How can you enable useful features, "like games." That's up to the software developer, not Apple. You can play COD:4 on OS X, but you don't hear about it cause nobody wants to hear it.
Then Apple should work in concert with developpers more. The ball is still in their court.

See what I did there? Two expressions in two phrases! OCN has made my English so much better
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post #22 of 65
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Originally Posted by Adrienspawn View Post
1. Opinion
2. There isn't much competition with OS's going on to be honest. No price slashes or anything, mainly because Apple is selling it's OS on it's own Macs only. Apple isn't enabling more useful features, like games, into it's OS, and Miscrosoft is like, ''ok if people will pay more for OSX, might as well cut features ourselves and mark up our prices''.


Man I need sleep......going to get chocolate
2 is not true.. DirectX is the defacto standard for gaming API's, and is not available on any other platform except through emulation. If more developers used OpenGL then there would be more Linux/OSX games. And OSX has quite a few games just to let you know.

And hell, half you apple haters have no reason to hate it, 1/4 of you have insignificant reasons such as saying it doesnt have right click, or it costs too much (which is ALL relative and an opinion), and the other 1/4 are just blind fanboys.. .
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2 is not true.. DirectX is the defacto standard for gaming API's, and is not available on any other platform except through emulation. If more developers used OpenGL then there would be more Linux/OSX games. And OSX has quite a few games just to let you know.

And hell, half you apple haters have no reason to hate it, 1/4 of you have insignificant reasons such as saying it doesnt have right click, or it costs too much (which is ALL relative and an opinion), and the other 1/4 are just blind fanboys.. .
Well, you have to admit that Macs are basically PCs with a different operating system and restrictive control. I mean it sounds bad when it's said bluntly like that but still...
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post #24 of 65
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Well, you have to admit that Macs are basically PCs with a different operating system and restrictive control. I mean it sounds bad when it's said bluntly like that but still...
Oh, well yeah they are PC's. But view Mac's as an appliance, you buy it, and use it for as long as you can, and get a new one. Apple tends to have a long life for their machines, up until last year my school was still running 500mhz Imac G3's (and in fact, has a couple of them still laying around). They run OS 10.4 just fine. A 500mhz computer with 256MB of RAM running XP does not fair so well however. It works at first, but soon the OS gets very very bogged down.
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This is what I have learned from this thread, most of you think computers are only meant for gaming.
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post #26 of 65
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Well, you have to admit that Macs are basically PCs with a different operating system and restrictive control. I mean it sounds bad when it's said bluntly like that but still...
I agree.

Buying a Mac is pretty much like buying a Dell with a huge markup for OSX.
    
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This is what I have learned from this thread, most of you think computers are only meant for gaming.
I agree Marin.


I use my computer for many tasks myself. I do TONS of emailing, composing, games, picture editing(rarely cause I suck at it), creating PDF documents for advertising etc.

Macs are probably better for EVERYTHING I do except gaming.
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There's a lot more money in marking up a mp3 player 400% then a computer where they might get 25%.
Really?

Zune:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16855604017
$234

iPod:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16855101174
$242

242 / 234 * 100 = 103% which is a ∆3% difference. Maybe you did your math wrong and hit a 4 instead of a 3 and then went on to accidentally press "0" two times. Either that or m$ is marking prices up 400% as well.

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2. Competition is ultimately better for the consumer.
Actually the rule on this site is that competition is better for the consumer unless we're talking about apple vs m$. In that case, we defend m$ so that they can continue putting out $350 OSs.

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This is what I have learned from this thread, most of you think computers are only meant for gaming.
Read the first quote in my sig. DangerousHobo FTW

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Buying a Mac is pretty much like buying a Dell with a huge markup for OSX.
Where's the markup? Do a comparison and let's see!
post #29 of 65
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Actually the rule on this site is that competition is better for the consumer unless we're talking about apple vs m$. In that case, we defend m$ so that they can continue putting out $350 OSs.
*claps*
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Really?

Zune:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16855604017
$234

iPod:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16855101174
$242

242 / 234 * 100 = 103% which is a ∆3% difference. Maybe you did your math wrong and hit a 4 instead of a 3 and then went on to accidentally press "0" two times. Either that or m$ is marking prices up 400% as well.



Actually the rule on this site is that competition is better for the consumer unless we're talking about apple vs m$. In that case, we defend m$ so that they can continue putting out $350 OSs.



Read the first quote in my sig. DangerousHobo FTW



Where's the markup? Do a comparison and let's see!

The markup would be 400% in that if the zune costs $58 to make, but is sold at $234, then its a 400% markup on the MSRP...

Thats what he meant .
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