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I think this is a good read if you would like to learn more about piracy.

In all due respect though, PC games will always be pirated, no matter the copy protection. I think the only way to lessen the numbers is to move to Steam.
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post #52 of 82
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Originally Posted by curly haired boy View Post
you accept that risk when you make ANY purchase. furthermore, just because a game may not suit your tastes does not make it suck, it just means you don't like it.

a bad game is one that's so bug-riddled that it barely runs. the story doesn't play out, you can't continue as you're supposed to - it's broken.

a "sucky" game is one that doesn't suit your preferences - for some reason you don't like it.

see how that works? One is the game's fault, and it's an easily known, objectively measured factor that can be learned of through reviews and such. The other has nothing to do with the game, and everything to do with the player - it's completely subjective, and therefore not of any use as a concrete assessment of quality.

Again, i reiterate: You accept the risk that you will not enjoy the product when you purchase it. If you're a savvy consumer, you'll mostly seek out stuff that's similar to stuff you've enjoyed in the past. you'll read the reviews and figure out BEFOREHAND if it's your cup of tea.

what you CANNOT do in a civilized society is take in a complete experience for free, and then, depending on whether you feel it delivered sufficient entertainment, pay for it.

Do your research and you won't be buying games that you don't like.
couldn't of said it better my self
that's exactly what i do before i buy a game
i will check out reviews, do some research, try a few Demos
and if i like it, ill go out and buy it
otherwise ill go for another game
how ever if its an expansion to a game i already like, ill buy it in a second

(the pirate the game to try it is a lame pirate excuse for downloading it, when they wont pay a cent even if they do like it, because why head to the store when it's already their on your pc, and if they do have the money, they will either spend it on another game, or spend it on something else entirely, and when questioned about this they will probably claim they didn't like it afterall, or it was a buggy game or w/e their excuse is)
Edited by William151515 - 12/18/08 at 5:51pm
post #53 of 82
XBOX360 is just as easy to pirate as the PC, same goes for the PS2, I have alot of experience living in china! u just pay the dude that sold u the XBOX/PS a little extra and u get a fully cracked version of it... Now the only Console that isnt pirated is the PS3 cause the disk and burners are way to expensive for pirates to make money
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Originally Posted by megajesus View Post
Most PC games are not worth the 50$, and for the last time, it isn't theft.

Ok, let's go with saying it isn't theft. Let me have your SSN, name, and mother's maiden name so I can apply for a credit card. I'm going to use that credit card to buy adobe photoshop CS3. It isn;t theft though, because no "real" property was stolen. Right?
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I like when Hollywood released their little anti-piracy ads with the stuntman dude who was basically crying because he was out of work from pirates, when 2 months later Hollywood posts its largest and most successful revenue year ever. So what is it Hollywood, is piracy hurting you or helping you?

Piracy is free advertising, free advertising is priceless.
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I personally take the stance that, "theft" or not, piracy still screws somebody in the end. So, there is some DRM that is needed to stop [and here's the key word] casual piracy.

Devs have known for a LONG time that anything they put DRM on will only stop "casual" pirates. That is, stuff like "Insert CD to play game" keeps you from just installing your game and passing it on to your buddy for him to install. This form of DRM is a very tolerable version of DRM, cause its non intrusive, and it still lets you sell your old games.

There is no way to stop "hardcore" piracy. Fact. If man can create it, Man can break it.

But, people can stop "casual" piracy with DRM. The line, in my book, needs to be drawn where DRM prevents reselling of games, which is what EA seems to be up to.

anyway, back to my main point: As our society gets more technologically savvy, there will be a rise in "hardcore" pirates. This rise will cause somebody to come up with a form of DRM that can help to prevent some of the more "softcore" pirates from getting away with a free lunch [IE steam. I know how to pirate a PC game, but wouldnt dare try to pirate a steam game]. Until somebody comes up with a method of DRM that allows resale and can prevent all but the most hardcore of pirates, Piracy will live on. The best thing we can do as honest consumers to vote for the better DRM with our wallets.

just my
post #57 of 82
Do you guys think that moving games to a different media, other than cds would help? I know you guys are gona hate this but act like games went to console for a moment and we went back to some kinda of HUGE capacity cartridge. I think games would be hard to copy. How many pirates copied sega games, ya know? It makes it such a pain no one wanted to bother with it. I sure do hope pirating stops........It would suck to have a expensive computer i cant play games on! I like the steam idea.
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Originally Posted by Gibsonboywonder View Post
Do you guys think that moving games to a different media, other than cds would help? I know you guys are gona hate this but act like games went to console for a moment and we went back to some kinda of HUGE capacity cartridge. I think games would be hard to copy. How many pirates copied sega games, ya know? It makes it such a pain no one wanted to bother with it. I sure do hope pirating stops........It would suck to have a expensive computer i cant play games on! I like the steam idea.
Interesting idea, but doubtful. I'm sure someone will just make a rom to play the "cartridged" games on...

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There's nothing wrong with testing out the game and deleting it, or testing it and buying it. That said, I wholly support steam.
There is everything wrong with it. What of the times when you (or someone else) might have "acquired" a copy of a game that might have been interesting, though after playing the "acquired" game you feel that it's not worth buying? I fear you're missing the point of why this is an issue. There is never a reason to acquire a pirated game. Ever. It cannot and should not be justified. That being said, I agree with you on the idea of steam-like applications. (except I believe steam wields way too much power over what users can and cannot do with their purchased content).
    
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not sure if this has been said as i haven't ready the whole thread, but Pc piracy is quite a bit higher than consoles because consoles don't need to upgrade every six months to play new games, i'm sure if every pc user could play every new game on a 3 year old system they'd have tons of money left over to actually buy the game. With that said Piracy is still stealing and if you can't afford the game maybe you shouldn't be playing it.
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There is everything wrong with it. What of the times when you (or someone else) might have "acquired" a copy of a game that might have been interesting, though after playing the "acquired" game you feel that it's not worth buying? I fear you're missing the point of why this is an issue. There is never a reason to acquire a pirated game. Ever. It cannot and should not be justified.
:yawn:

happens all the time. I can't reward a publisher who makes a poor game. It goes against everything I stand for! I stand for value! If they want to charge $30-60 for a NON-RETURNABLE game, it better be entertaining and it better last a while.

You know when you go to a movie, you can ask for your money back if it blows... I dont do this now, but it's the principle of customer satisfaction
Edited by TehStone - 12/18/08 at 8:42pm
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