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1.968v. Tough little chip for sure.
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Why do people even bring voltage up in this conversation? These are not Intel 45nm's that can't even take 1.5v 24/7. You can't compare voltages across platforms or companies as we have no clue how many volts these Phenom II's will be able to handle without dieing during suicide runs or 24/7 usage. Wait until they are released first.
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Originally Posted by Weedvender View Post
Guys.... would you take a look at the voltage required to reach 6.3 Ghz on the second video?

There is no way I would pump 1.9 volts on a 45 nm chip. NO WAY.

I respect AMD for their ability to make excellence out of *****. But, come on.... 1.9 volts!?

Unless AMD managed to make the 45 nm process tank better than a 120 nm one.
It survived long enough to run the freaking Crysis time demo, which is much more than can be said for a Ci7 running 1.9V at 6+GHz...theoretically, since the Ci7 hasn't hit 6GHz Besides, it's not as if everyone's going to be putting 1.9V across their Phenom II. In the end, you can't compare voltages between the two technologies. Just because Ci7 and C2Q can't handle that kind of voltage doesn't mean Phenom II can't.

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Don't care about unrealistic cherry picked over clocks that would never happen on a retail silicon - Give me real world over clocks or give me silence.
I have said it before and I'll say it again. In the microprocessor industry, if your final release isn't as good as your best "cherry-picked" manufacturing sample, you will lose your job. Period. Either way, if you'd even bothered to read all the Phenom II articles out there, you'd know that for these OCing contests they've been handing out random chips to each team. How many cherry-picked processors can they possibly have?
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There is a youtube video showing a CPU-Z reading of over 1000GHz before.....wasn't stable, it was an AMD Laptop :\\
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I look AMD Phenom II isn't a bad, is really good. But i very much can't wait for testing i7 vs AMD Phenom II 940 Who know will winner ?
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post #46 of 89
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***. That cant be right, i mean look at the damn voltage.
That FSB can't be right either. But ya you're right at that voltage and those temps there wouldn't be anything moving through the chip because it would be so unconductive. That 65nm would have to say 15 nm for that to make any sense at that voltage. They need to shop the 1.200 volts to 2.100 volts to make it a better fake.
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post #47 of 89
Hopefully they'll include a year's supply of LN2.

But I don't believe anything from people who represent the company making it... As always consumer benchmarks will tell.

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That FSB can't be right either. But ya you're right at that voltage and those temps there wouldn't be anything moving through the chip because it would be so unconductive. That 65nm would have to say 15 nm for that to make any sense at that voltage. They need to shop the 1.200 volts to 2.100 volts to make it a better fake.

Wonder if they're that desperate....just getting the hype up so that no one buys i7s for Christmas.

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It survived long enough to run the freaking Crysis time demo, which is much more than can be said for a Ci7 running 1.9V at 6+GHz...theoretically, since the Ci7 hasn't hit 6GHz Besides, it's not as if everyone's going to be putting 1.9V across their Phenom II. In the end, you can't compare voltages between the two technologies. Just because Ci7 and C2Q can't handle that kind of voltage doesn't mean Phenom II can't.
No chip can handle 1.9V, Period. LN2 is the only thing that kept it alive those few seconds. Even if you brought it back to normal voltage that thing will die shortly. Doesn't matter if they're cherry-picked or not, people don't have LN2 to OC like crazy. Air-cooled overclocks are a lot more representative.
Edited by Adrienspawn - 12/19/08 at 3:24pm
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Volts on AMD's 45nm process chips are much different then intels. They can tolerate higher voltages.


its still 45nm ..smaller transistors can take less voltage than bigger ones (65nm).. check out cpu history ... regardless if it is AMD of Intel
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So AMD makes their chips differently than Intel?
SOI eh? Whats a good site to read about it?
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So AMD makes their chips differently than Intel?
SOI eh? Whats a good site to read about it?
Yeah AMD chips increase voltage under load, so they must be a lot tougher. Intel however, decreases under load (the horrid vdroop you might have heard about, can cause issues with sensitive clocks.) You might have also noticed AMD's voltages are a tad higher to begin with.
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