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I was going through some old reviews for CPUs like the Phenom 9850 and a couple of others, and I noticed pretty consistently that they always report crappy overclocks. For instance, one site was saying that the max they could get out of the 9850 was 2.7-2.8 GHz. I know a lot of people who get it to 3.0 just with the multiplier and almost no voltage increase.

I'm guessing these guys are better at this than most of us, seeing as they do it for a living. But what gives? Is it because the chips are early samples and later batches come through with better quality?
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I'm guessing these guys are better at this than most of us
not.

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Is it because the chips are early samples and later batches come through with better quality?
My wild guess too, but.. damn I hope not.
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Those reviewers don't spend a lot of time going all out. They don't have the time to tweak every setting in the bios and use trial and error to inch farther and farther. Those overclocks are just quickly done, and almost anyone with even a slight knowledge of overclocking should be able to reach those clocks with just about every chip, regardless of batch.

I asked the same question a long time ago and that was basically the answer I was given from a person who does those reviews
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So your basically saying they are not doing the job they are being paid for, or they are doing it but poorly.
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it could just be a bad chip that they got, maby theyre not overclock guru's like us
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I mean, it sounds like some people are just slapping the multiplier higher and already, they beat these so-called experts.

If it's the early batch theory, that would suck. I'd like to believe that buying things on day 1 at a premium wouldn't carry with it a quality penalty.
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They don't have time to tweak much
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They figure that there are everyday users that won't OC, performance users that will OC a little, and enthusiasts (like us) who will constantly tweak stuff for maximum performance. They know that the first and second groups are the vast majority, so they see what they can do as a mild overclock, without going completely all out. This is why Maximum PC had a build where they said the Sandy 3700+ was a great OCer, they got 2.7 GHz out of it. Well, most everyone in the "enthusiast" category was able to push it to 3 GHz or beyond. But most average Joes with a decent motherboard could have gotten 2.7 GHz with relative ease. If they say "we got an E8400 to 4.2 GHz everyone who didn't get it would be all "oh man, my stepping sucks, my motherboard sucks, my batch number sucks" etc, and complain about their chip not being good enough. If they say you can get 3.6 GHz out of an E8400, and a guy gets 4.1 GHz, he's all "oh man, this CPU is even better than I thought." And everyone's happy.
Edited by pow3rtr1p - 12/19/08 at 12:37pm
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i would also think they dont have time, i mean they gotta put up a review by a certain deadline i would think
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They figure that there are everyday users that won't OC, performance users that will OC a little, and enthusiasts (like us) who will constantly tweak stuff for maximum performance. They know that the first and second groups are the vast majority, so they see what they can do as a mild overclock, without going completely all out. This is why Maximum PC had a build where they said the Sandy 3700+ was a great OCer, they got 2.7 GHz out of it. Well, most everyone in the "enthusiast" category was able to push it to 3 GHz or beyond. But most average Joes with a decent motherboard could have gotten 2.7 GHz with relative ease. If they say "we got an E8400 to 4.2 GHz everyone who didn't get it would be all "oh man, my stepping sucks, my motherboard sucks, my batch number sucks" etc, and complain about their chip not being good enough. If they say you can get 3.6 GHz out of an E8400, and a guy gets 4.1 GHz, he's all "oh man, this CPU is even better than I thought." And everyone's happy.
Yea, that does make sense. Although it makes the reviewers look less cool haha.

"We could not get this chip above 2.8 no matter what."
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