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There are no long term effects as long as theres proper cooling.


Now if the Rig is running HOT , it will live for 8 years,,,,,,, more probably

good temps longer life span ,, 10 years or 20 years


Im never upgrading until CPU can process 3D and has GPU inside processor and 3dmark FPS with cpu only isnt 1fps and is 60fps ,,,

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Im never upgrading until CPU can process 3D and has GPU inside processor and 3dmark FPS with cpu only isnt 1fps and is 60fps ,,,
Onboard video is bad enough when it's on the motherboard, when they put it in the CPU die (like Intel will do next year) then it's really going to suck. Well it's good for some people, but if you want good 3D performance this is not (yet) the way to go.
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Onboard video is bad enough when it's on the motherboard, when they put it in the CPU die (like Intel will do next year) then it's really going to suck. Well it's good for some people, but if you want good 3D performance this is not (yet) the way to go.
I don't think that's what he means. What I gathered from his post is, you know those CPU tests in 3dmark 06? The ones that run at like 1-4fps or so depending on how good your processor is? When he upgrades he wants to get 60fps on those.

He would still be using a GPU in the computer, though.
    
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my p4 is about 4 yrs. old & my Opty 170 about 2 yrs. old.Both at still going strong,infact ,i just raised my p4 clock from 3.80 to 3.90.np here.
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I've commented on this a year or more ago when Core 2 Duo came out and replaced the Pentium D. It's not always the CPU that fails. High voltage through the chipset and RAM is a weak link. Running an E6600 on a Chilly1 Phase at 4ghz Folding for about 3 months toasted the Abit AW9D-Max. I was pushing around 2 volts through the MCH and eventually it would not run stock without BSODing. I popped the chip into a P5Kdlx and on water was running 3.8 error free again.

It's possible that if I had LCed the chipset of the Abit with chilled liquid I may have gotten more life...but the effects of extreme over volt on a motherboard are proven IMO.
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I've commented on this a year or more ago when Core 2 Duo came out and replaced the Pentium D. It's not always the CPU that fails. High voltage through the chipset and RAM is a weak link. Running an E6600 on a Chilly1 Phase at 4ghz Folding for about 3 months toasted the Abit AW9D-Max. I was pushing around 2 volts through the MCH and eventually it would not run stock without BSODing. I popped the chip into a P5Kdlx and on water was running 3.8 error free again.

It's possible that if I had LCed the chipset of the Abit with chilled liquid I may have gotten more life...but the effects of extreme over volt on a motherboard are proven IMO.
Agree. CPUs are pretty tough, but RAM and chipsets are a bit more delicate. I think if I get 6 years out of my CPU then that I will be very happy.

My experience of running at stock is positive -
Packard Bell Intel P1 bought circa 1996 - still in everyday use - not one hardware part had failed in 12 years of use.
Packard Bell Intel P4 1.3ghz skt423 with 256mb RIMM RAM bought circa 2000 - Still in everyday use - not one piece of hardware failed.
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I'm coming to the same conclusion CD. It almost seems like, from the perspective of an OC, that the CPU is becoming the strongest link in the chain. It's the mobo I seem to have the most trouble with, but that could be b/c I got a 'decent' overclocking mobo and not a 'good' one.
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Well the pro benchers running LN2 have been known to use NB pots as well.

For my own gear that Iwant to keep running I try to limit the chipset volts. Right now my Skulltrail is running the Xeons at 4.1 flawlessly for about 3 months or more...can't remember. I have just the slightest overvolt to the board andf the CPUs only need 1.36 so I am assuming that despite being OCed they both will hold up for a long time.
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Originally Posted by CyberDruid View Post
I've commented on this a year or more ago when Core 2 Duo came out and replaced the Pentium D. It's not always the CPU that fails. High voltage through the chipset and RAM is a weak link. Running an E6600 on a Chilly1 Phase at 4ghz Folding for about 3 months toasted the Abit AW9D-Max. I was pushing around 2 volts through the MCH and eventually it would not run stock without BSODing. I popped the chip into a P5Kdlx and on water was running 3.8 error free again.

It's possible that if I had LCed the chipset of the Abit with chilled liquid I may have gotten more life...but the effects of extreme over volt on a motherboard are proven IMO.
2 volts MCH for 3 months? That's pretty awesome, even if it did fry your chipset.

I agree, from what I've seen (as long as you stay within reason) you'll probably damage other parts before the CPU. But if you can keep the voltages fairly low then you'll probably have a nice long life even with the overclock.
    
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There are no long term effects as long as theres proper cooling.


Now if the Rig is running HOT , it will live for 8 years,,,,,,, more probably

good temps longer life span ,, 10 years or 20 years


Im never upgrading until CPU can process 3D and has GPU inside processor and 3dmark FPS with cpu only isnt 1fps and is 60fps ,,,

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I'm just curious how you would know if it could last said amount of time. Have you ever had a rig for 10 to 20 years?
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