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post #1 of 11
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hello!

right now, it's christmas and this means that i have an opportunity to upgrade my rig by several pieces again. my current rig is getting pretty outdated and i think i will make only 1 or 2 upgrades to it, then i'll not be upgrading it anymore.

current setup:
cpu: intel P4 3,0Ghz
mobo: intel cherry creek D915PCY
ram: 1,5GB 533Mhz (will upgrade to 2,5, maybe more after)
gfx: radeon HD3850 512MB
psu: 550w

now i want to upgrade the cpu. what bothers me, is if i should buy an intel e5200 or 7200. the mobo is a piece of ***** and matches with the e5200 fsb speed. e7200's fsb is too high for my current mobo. now i am thinking if i should buy 5200 or 7200 and a new mobo next year. discuss. (buying a new mobo next year would mean i will overclock my gfx and cpu)
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post #2 of 11
your motherboard cannot run these procesors

http://support.intel.com/support/mot.../CS-026950.htm


Your graphic card is good and your psu and case wont make much difference. You may want to upgrade your motherboard and buy a compatable cpu + ram to go with it. I know its a bit hefty but no upgrade on your current motherboard is worth it.

Where are you from? I can post links to a good combo. Also if budget is in mind E5200 is a great choice, that is if you can get a motherboard to go with it.
Edited by beanbagofdoom - 12/20/08 at 5:16am
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post #3 of 11
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i hate this place which sold me this comp to me years ago every fing piece was made so that u can't upgrade anything. THANKS btw. i'll consider buying both cpu and mobo in the same year then.
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post #4 of 11
I suggest a cheap G31 or P31 chipset and a E5200 + 2Gb of 800mhz ram for a cheap upgrade. You could always go AMD too?
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post #5 of 11
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i'll stick with intel. thanks for the advice. i really appreciate it.
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post #6 of 11
I see you are from Estonia, do you know any websites where you can buy parts from?
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post #7 of 11
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yes, ofc i know. we are pretty well supplied here. just the prices are a bit crispy
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post #8 of 11
Can you send a link or two? I can point out a nice combo
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post #9 of 11
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Originally Posted by totakad View Post
now i want to upgrade the cpu. what bothers me, is if i should buy an intel e5200 or 7200. the mobo is a piece of ***** and matches with the e5200 fsb speed. e7200's fsb is too high for my current mobo. now i am thinking if i should buy 5200 or 7200 and a new mobo next year. discuss. (buying a new mobo next year would mean i will overclock my gfx and cpu)
The e5200's FSB is 800 and in theory it should work on your mobo, but in reality it won't work. There is a thing called VRM - the voltage regulators - wich supply power to the CPU. Your mobo is designed to wotk with Pentium4/D class CPUs, not with new C2D/Pentium DC.

Now about the e5200, you should know it can OC, but up to around 3.4-3.6, maybe more depending on the sample. I can do 3.7GHz on mine, but since I don't need the power I keep it at 3.3GHz for a cool 24°C.
The mobo advice: Gigabyte EP45 DS3L; if you're in the merket for some more expensive ones, the EP45 DS3R such as the one I own is very nice too.
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post #10 of 11
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i read a bit more at other places and thought an Asus P5QL P43 would be nice. the p45 is a bit expensive for me, so yea. and about clocking, with the p43 board and e5200, will it go to 3,2Ghz with stock cooling?

for beanbagofdoom: a site where i am looking atm http://arvutikeskus.ee/index.php?pid...k&lookid=19488
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E5200 @ 3.5Ghz GA-EP43-S3L Radeon HD 3850 512MB A-DATA 4GB 800Mhz@667Mhz 
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Samsung 160GB 7200RPM Windows XP Home SP3 Samsung 19" LCD Chieftec 550W 
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