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It's been said already but it seems people are ignoring the point:

Generally people look at performance/price to choose their computer parts- in that comparison I'd argue that AMD's processors beat out intel's for the most part. On the other hand, intel seems to dish out the best performing chips for buckets of cash. If you value performance and have the money, you'll probably lean toward intel. If you have less of a disposable income, you probably prefer AMD.
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Well slap my ass and call me sally. i7 920 @ 3.8GHz with HT disabled scores 5751 in the 3DMark06 CPU test:


Although, I'm sure if it were also 4GHz, it would match or surpass the P2... but still that's damn impressive assuming the P2 benchmark is legit.

Also, in real life usage, HT would still be enabled. It's not Intel's fault that its CPUs can execute two threads per core and AMD can't.

When I get back from work, I will try and get 4GHz with no HT and do another run. Oh, and I forgot to mention, for both of my tests, turbo mode is disabled. Again in real life, it would probably be enabled.
Phenom II @4Ghz = 5846 3DMark06
i7 920 w/o HT @3.8Ghz = 5751 3DMark06

That alone shows how impressive this new amd chip is. there is no doubt it is fast and overclocks leaps and bounds further then the last phenoms. but the only question that comes to my personal mind as a potential buyer is once again "is that safe 24/7 voltage?" and "what was the load temps on a decent air cooler?". personally i would want the chip to last at least 2 years on air. guess i will have to wait until those two questions are answered.
post #53 of 119
Guys, quit bickering.


Core i7 for folders, encoders and number crunchers. It slaughters all else in this field.

Phenom II for gamers. Same reason.


Geez...
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What's even more impressive is that it was accomplished on a MSI board.
I might have to shed them new light, although the K9A2 Platinum was good, the new DKA790GX seems good too.
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That's at 200mhz less speed and HT disabled, so call it a handicapped victory. The Core i7 beats it with HT and 4ghz pretty badly, but no one is saying it's 'impressive'. But even then it's the lowest Core i7 and a good buy at 300$. And to those who only game with CPUs, good for you. The i7 is equal or better in games, and better in everything else. Everyone thinks an i7 is 2000$ for some reason...
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Originally Posted by Stephen Chan View Post
It's been said already but it seems people are ignoring the point:

Generally people look at performance/price to choose their computer parts- in that comparison I'd argue that AMD's processors beat out intel's for the most part. On the other hand, intel seems to dish out the best performing chips for buckets of cash. If you value performance and have the money, you'll probably lean toward intel. If you have less of a disposable income, you probably prefer AMD.
Your assuming too much - If AMD processors are that close to Intels price/performance then the Intel prices will lower.
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That's at 200mhz less speed and HT disabled, so call it a handicapped victory. The Core i7 beats it with HT and 4ghz pretty badly, but no one is saying it's 'impressive'. But even then it's the lowest Core i7 and a good buy at 300$. And to those who only game with CPUs, good for you. The i7 is equal or better in games, and better in everything else. Everyone thinks an i7 is 2000$ for some reason...
Its not the i7 920 that makes things expensive. its the motherboard and ram that make it a much more expensive alternative to a much cheaper phenom II build. and as you can see the performance is pretty close so why spend all that extra cash for a couple hundred points in a benchmark?

i7 920 and this phenom should be very close in price so ignore it, but compare;

msi X58 = $220
cheapest 3x1 GB ram kit = $75
total = $295

Or for the phenom and the board they used;

MSI 790GX = $135
4GB of Gskill 8500 = $47
total = $182

As you can see it is quite bit more expensive cost for a fraction better performance, not a smart buy for gamers IMO.
Edited by Derp - 12/20/08 at 12:04pm
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Its not the i7 920 that makes things expensive. its the $300 motherboard and $150+ ram that make it a much more expensive alternative to a much cheaper phenom II build. and as you can see the performance is pretty close so why spend all that extra cash for a couple hundred points in a benchmark?
Well why spend 200$ on a CPU upgrade that won't affect gaming that much. A GPU upgrade makes a lot more sense. People can either stick with their current setup or upgrade the GPU for good performance, or if they want really good performance on everything go with i7.
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Your assuming too much - If AMD processors are that close to Intels price/performance then the Intel prices will lower.
Not Historically, Intel has a habit of NOT lowering prices outside of their "schedule".
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An important thing to consider is this 4 Ghz is a straight multiplier OC. With proper tweaking to the reference clock, you should be able to pull ~5-10% more performance out of the chip.

Just curious, how many of the bashers in this thread know how to overclock AMD chips? Just wondering, because there is a large number of comments that are downright ignorant.
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