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Its not the i7 920 that makes things expensive. its the $300 motherboard and $150+ ram that make it a much more expensive alternative to a much cheaper phenom II build. and as you can see the performance is pretty close so why spend all that extra cash for a couple hundred points in a benchmark?
You can get an X58 for $219 and tri-channel RAM for $90, even less with rebates.

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Because someone wants the best performance across every task that they give their processor?
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An important thing to consider is this 4 Ghz is a straight multiplier OC. With proper tweaking to the reference clock, you should be able to pull ~5-10% more performance out of the chip.

Just curious, how many of the bashers in this thread know how to overclock AMD chips? Just wondering, because there is a large number of comments that are downright ignorant.

QFT. Overclocking Intel seems to be "Up bus speed, up volts, wait till something bluescreens" affair. AMD requires a fair bit of finesse, but when they are stabilized, they never crash.
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Well why spend 200$ on a CPU upgrade that won't affect gaming that much. A GPU upgrade makes a lot more sense. People can either stick with their current setup or upgrade the GPU for good performance, or if they want really good performance on everything go with i7.
CPU bottleneck, google it brainiac...

There comes a point where all the GPU in the world is useless w/o enough CPU to deliver on it.
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CPU bottleneck, google it brainiac...

There comes a point where all the GPU in the world is useless w/o enough CPU to deliver on it.
Upgrade your GPU and tell me your FPS didn't go up.

And If you want maximum CPU performance theres the i7.
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QFT. Overclocking Intel seems to be "Up bus speed, up volts, wait till something bluescreens" affair. AMD requires a fair bit of finesse, but when they are stabilized, they never crash.
Way to generalize The i7s overclock the same way AMD processors do now.

Maybe what your saying is more fitting to the Core 2 but its not as though past AMD processors over clocked nearly as well anyway, until recently of course.

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Not Historically, Intel has a habit of NOT lowering prices outside of their "schedule".
Since the debut of the Core micro architecture, what AMD processor came close enough to Intel's for them to see a decline in sales which would warrant a price drop?
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You can get an X58 for $219 and tri-channel RAM for $90, even less with rebates.

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Because someone wants the best performance across every task that they give their processor?
I uber edited the post you quoted from me, feel free to re-quote . anyways a quick newegg search = the phenom II build gets 1GB more ram and $113 in your pocket that could go towards a 4870X2 or the new hot pocket GTX295. you are right its not THAT much more expensive but to some people it would be the wiser choice to go with the phenom II build.
Edited by Derp - 12/20/08 at 12:21pm
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Upgrade your GPU and tell me your FPS didn't go up.

And If you want maximum CPU performance theres the i7.
It depends on what current gpu & cpu your using anyway.

I upgrade to a 4870, realising my cpu is bottlenecking it.
I was so desperate after seeing the fps that benchmarks shown all over the inet that i just bought it without taking the rest into consideration.

And, obviously, there will be alot more people that did the same...

My fps increased alright, but some games are still unplayable. Where a new cpu would increase it even more making them playable again...

Thats why I'm considering a phenom 2. I don't have to upgrade my ram and the am2+ mobo's aren't as expensive as the 1366 ones


Seeing as this 4.0 is approved by most sites now, i'm curious if that voltage is safe for 24/7.
I was hoping i could get it arround 3.6/3.8 with stock voltage or just little increase..
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You obvisiouly haven't been around very long, I said HISTORICALLY, Core has been out what, 2 years, 3? Go back 5 years, then 10 and look at the price drops up until now. Intel has NEVER bent to market pressure and dropped prices prior to a scheduled price cut.

You AMD bashing i7 guys need to get off your high horse and realize then some people live on BUDGETS and for them it's all about "the best bang for their buck" And also realize that w/o AMD, VIA, Cyrix you'd be paying $1000.00 for that shiney new i7 920
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You obvisiouly haven't been around very long, I said HISTORICALLY, Core has been out what, 2 years, 3? Go back 5 years, then 10 and look at the price drops up until now. Intel has NEVER bent to market pressure and dropped prices prior to a scheduled price cut.

You AMD bashing i7 guys need to get off your high horse and realize then some people live on BUDGETS and for them it's all about "the best bang for their buck" And also realize that w/o AMD, VIA, Cyrix you'd be paying $1000.00 for that shiney new i7 920
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Without Intel, VIA, and Cyrix you'd be paying $1000.00 for that shiney new Deneb.
Welcome to the real world

Intel is a company. Companies need to sell. If AMD has a product that is underpricing them, they will lower their cost, regardless of what they ever did before. If AMD had the best CPU ever, they would want to keep the price up as well.
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Originally Posted by Adrienspawn View Post
Welcome to the real world

Intel is a company. Companies need to sell. If AMD has a product that is underpricing them, they will lower their cost, regardless of what they ever did before. If AMD had the best CPU ever, they would want to keep the price up as well.
And what your FAILING to realize is, the whole time AMD 64 and X2 64 were kicking the nuts on intels POS Netburst technology, intel NEVER dropped pricing before a scheduled price cut, and I never said AMD wouldn't do the same thing if they were in Intel's shoes.
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