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hi all just a quick question, what is the actual q6600 GO TJmax

i see some people posting in other places that its actually 90c and not 100 is that true ???
    
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This has been debated religiously time and time again.

Intel supposedly released an article revealing all of their CPU's TJmax's, and according to that spec sheet, the Q6600's is 90c. Now it also states that when temps are below 50c, the sensor is not very accurate; explaining why you will get sub-ambient idle temps with a 90c TJMax.

I'm not saying it's not true, but I'd rather not trust it.
100% @ 3.2ghz and 1.35v with temps at 43c-45c seem WAY too good to be true for me.

I keep mine at 100c to be safe, as people have also speculated that intel released this so people would overclock their chips too high and fry them, forcing them to buy new ones...
Edited by smoke12291 - 12/20/08 at 8:43am
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Well i say it 90 because intel has stated that sensors are not accurate with idle temps in general. With load its 90C.
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This has been debated religiously time and time again.

Intel supposedly released an article revealing all of their CPU's TJmax's, and according to that spec sheet, the Q6600's is 90c. Now it also states that when temps are below 50c, the sensor is not very accurate; explaining why you will get sub-ambient idle temps with a 90c TJMax.

I'm not saying it's not true, but I'd rather not trust it.
100% @ 3.2ghz and 1.35v with temps at 43c-45c seem WAY too good to be true for me.

I keep min at 100c to be safe, as people have also speculated that intel released this so people would overclock their chips too high and fry them, forcing them to buy new ones...
the thing is i was on 3.6ghz idle was 40c tj100 and 1.52V on my old q66 and that was air cooled

and now 3.6 1.40V tj100 watercooled and lapped i get the same temps ( note this is anothe q6600 with lower vid than the 1 i had before)

so tha leads me to thinki should set the tj to 90c and it would seem more acurate for this new setup



at the moment i an on 4ghz and i have installed 3x gtx360 rads and temps dont exceed 40C load on prime 8 hours so i am not really worried


i just wanted to clear why the temps seemed the same after changing to watercooling and a lower vid cpu
    
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I believe 90c is true. If not, then Q6600 stock clock speed is not 2.4GHz.
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I split the difference and set mine to 95c
    
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wow, great temps.

you can also think of it this way: since you load at about 40c, EVEN IF INTEL IS LYING, your still loading at 4ghz at about 50c, which is great.

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Well i say it 90 because intel has stated that sensors are not accurate with idle temps in general. With load its 90C.
I sure hope so, if it is, I'm loading at 32c folding
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Intel really did publish Tjmax for the Q6600 at 90 C.

The guy who writes RealTemp seems to think Tjmax is a bit different between batches of Q6600 chips even with the same revision, based on his observations. My own observations suggest that 90 C is correct, at least for every Q6600 I've ever seen posted here on this forum.

In either case, setting it up or down doesn't make you any "safer" since the actual temperature of your CPU is not different simply because you've changed the way it's reported!

Finally, Tjmax doesn't matter THAT much, since it's the distance from Tjmax that is the important part, and that of course doesn't change by whether you readjust what your monitoring program thinks Tjmax is.

And if you're trying to not go over the magic 71 degrees, it's Tcase you need to be watching, not the four on-die sensors.
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Intel really did publish Tjmax for the Q6600 at 90 C.

The guy who writes RealTemp seems to think Tjmax is a bit different between batches of Q6600 chips even with the same revision, based on his observations. My own observations suggest that 90 C is correct, at least for every Q6600 I've ever seen posted here on this forum.

In either case, setting it up or down doesn't make you any "safer" since the actual temperature of your CPU is not different simply because you've changed the way it's reported!

Finally, Tjmax doesn't matter THAT much, since it's the distance from Tjmax that is the important part, and that of course doesn't change by whether you readjust what your monitoring program thinks Tjmax is.

And if you're trying to not go over the magic 71 degrees, it's Tcase you need to be watching, not the four on-die sensors.

Tcase whaat the heck ???


it that the 5th temp everest reports as cpu temp ???
    
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Intel really did publish Tjmax for the Q6600 at 90 C.

The guy who writes RealTemp seems to think Tjmax is a bit different between batches of Q6600 chips even with the same revision, based on his observations. My own observations suggest that 90 C is correct, at least for every Q6600 I've ever seen posted here on this forum.

In either case, setting it up or down doesn't make you any "safer" since the actual temperature of your CPU is not different simply because you've changed the way it's reported!

Finally, Tjmax doesn't matter THAT much, since it's the distance from Tjmax that is the important part, and that of course doesn't change by whether you readjust what your monitoring program thinks Tjmax is.

And if you're trying to not go over the magic 71 degrees, it's Tcase you need to be watching, not the four on-die sensors.
QFT!

In coretemp, you can go to options -> settings -> then check the box that says, "Show Delta to Tjunction max temp."
that temp will never change no matter what TJmax you enter.

safe to about 30c from TJMax i believe.
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