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Thinking about picking up this refurb from here. I can't really build it that cheap with same parts and ofcourse, it's build allready. Might throw in a mild card in it that the power supply could handle. Maybe a 9600 gt or gs0. Just something for some mild gaming, internet and such.


http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?inv...SYS&cpc=SYSbsc
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Wow. That is a great price! I Just built a system for my friends 10-year old and threw a 9600 GSO in it and it is perfect for everything the kid could want (plus some games for dad)

You would have a nice setup for CHEAP. My suggestion for the video card would be the EVGA ebay store. They have great deals and every one I have bought has been sterling and came with tons of accessories.
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post #3 of 10
Man where do you people find the GSO's newegg is out of the EVGA's!
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wow that is a nice price, can't really beat that... nice find
9600 will be a good card for the money,
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814162007
$75 after MIR, + shipping, this will do you just fine.
you might might want to look at the psu upon arrival, make sure its beefy enough 4 the system....
don't want it going out and taking your new comp w/ it
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post #5 of 10
Out of stock.




Other than that, should be plenty.
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Originally Posted by Donnie Walhberg View Post
Thinking about picking up this refurb from here. I can't really build it that cheap with same parts and ofcourse, it's build allready. Might throw in a mild card in it that the power supply could handle. Maybe a 9600 gt or gs0. Just something for some mild gaming, internet and such.


http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?inv...SYS&cpc=SYSbsc
I did the same thing earlier this year for my niece, I got a similar system to this:

http://www.buy.com/prod/compaq-presa...210227170.html

and added an old 7800GT I had laying around. It's difficult to build a complete system for that price especially when it comes with Vista. It was even a little overclockable using SetFSB.
Edited by BinaryDemon - 12/21/08 at 8:16pm
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post #7 of 10
Give them your rig, and get a Quad and 4870X2 for yourself.
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thats good. a 9600gt will play any game to date. mine works great and they are cheap.
    
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A 9600GT will require a 6pin PCIe connector and I see no information about the PSU, nor can I read anything on the sticker from that tiny picture (yes I clicked on the picture, the blowup is still too tiny). There's a good chance that the PSU does not have a 6pin PCIe connector or doesn't have the proper current needed for a 9600GT. This is a respiffed HP with integrated graphics after all... They also don't tell you what model motherboard it is. Probably really old GeForce 6100 integrated graphics and an ancient NB and SB. Plus the BIOS will be locked so no overclocking at all (which you probably weren't planning on doing anyway).

The system costs $280 and you have no intentions of using the integrated graphics and plan on spending another $100 for a 9600GT ($70 after a mail-in rebate). So basically your budget is $350 after mail-in rebate and before S&H (likely to cost another $20-30) for a basic gaming system for the kids. And that assumes that the PSU in that computer can support a 9600GT. If it can't, you're looking at another $40-60. We can give you a system for $350 after mail-in rebate that will put that computer to shame with faster name brand parts and newegg's amazing customer service in case something comes DOA or breaks later on. Here goes...

$70 - Intel E2200 2.2GHz w/ stock cooler (buy the HD3850 in combo deals)
$45 - Sapphire HD3850 (after $10 combo discount w/ E2200 and $15 MIR)
$82 - ASUS P5Q P45
$25 - 2x2GB OCZ Reapers DDR2 800 4-4-4-15 (after $30 MIR)
$43 - PC P&C Silencer 500W (after $25 MIR and $17 off with promo code pcpextra20)
$60 - WD 5000AAKS 500GB HDD 16MB cache (AAKS series are very fast drives)
$50 - Cooler Master RC590 case
$23 - LG 20x DVD Burner
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$398 Total (after $85 in MIR)

It's a little more than the $350 (after MIR) you'd be spending on the other system with a 9600GT. However, I think there's a high probability that the other system will need a PSU replacement to run a 9600GT, and that would put it (after MIR) at the same cost as this computer (after MIR).

Plus, there's tons of advantages this system has over the AMD you're looking at.

1)These are all name brand parts that are far less likely to fail than the refurbed parts in that HP. And if they do fail, you have newegg's great customer service to get you a refund or replacement. If a part on the HP fails, you're going to need to replace it yourself and pray it's compatible with the HP.

2) That E2200 at stock 2.2GHz is as fast as a 2.9-3.0GHz AMD CPU. I owned an AMD X2 4200+ overclocked to 2.7GHz and replaced it with an E2180 at 2.0GHz stock. All other parts (except the motherboard) stayed the same in the system. The stock E2180 at 2.0GHz scored a few points higher in 3DMark06 as the AMD X2 4200+ at 2.7GHz. But here's the best part. The E2180 will overclock to 2.8-2.9GHz on stock voltage, meaning you can keep it at those speeds with the stock cooler. At 2.8GHz, the E2200 will blow away the X2 6000+ 3.1GHz.

3) You're getting 4GB of memory instead of 2GB. This is becoming more and more important as new applications are always using more memory. Even if you're installing a 32-bit OS, you'll still have about 3.1GB of memory versus 2GB.

4) That's a rock solid PSU that can handle any single video card now and well into the future, giving you the ability to upgrade later on without needing a new PSU. Also, the motherboard is one of the newest chipsets featuring PCIe 2.0, versus the ancient motherboard you're getting with that refurb. This will also be good for future upgrading.

5) It has 500GB of storage versus 400GB.

6) Most of the parts (including the case) have free shipping. S&H to me was only $15, should be about the same for you.

7) Sexier case with much better airflow. Should help with the longevity of the parts and allow for a alight overclock (with stock volts) on that E2200.

The only cons are:

1) Higher upfront cost of $500 shipped, versus the ~$400-410 shipped upfront cost of the refurb and 9600GT. However, if you need a new PSU, the upfront costs would be about $40 more.

2) Slightly higher final cost (after MIR and shipping) of about $20-40. However, if you need a new PSU, the final cost will be roughly the same, the system I recommend may even be slightly cheaper.

3) Slightly weaker GPU. The HD3850 is slightly weaker than a 9600GT, but at $45 you can't pass on that and the FPS loss probably won't be noticeable unless your kids are playing Crysis or something, in which case it might be.

4) You'll have to put it all together.
Edited by durch - 12/22/08 at 10:35am
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There's always the option of using the stock video in it and be done with it.
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