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post #11 of 34
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i have 32bit-os vista. I'll pull it all apart tomorrow if i cant find the manuals to check the power supply. I'm not experiencing too much lag just about 1.5secs difference between my pc and my brothers laptop. If i could get cable internet it would help alot but time warner wants $3000 to run a line to our house and then pay for service. were about 3/10 of a mile from the main road because our property is behind another piece of land. the lag is mostly when casting spells it doesnt lag very much if i keep casting the same one but when swapping it pauses for about 1/2 a sec about 25%of the time. I didnt really get to choose what all i got on my pc my mom bought it for me last christmas as a suprise because i started going back to school and was going to her house to use the pc for online classes.
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post #12 of 34
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ok got bored opened her up mobo is a M2N61-AX googled it Asus: Bios motherboard and the power supply says 250w
Edited by powder1821 - 12/21/08 at 4:35am
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post #13 of 34
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my pc is the slim version just in case that's relevant. it says online that it requires 1/2 height cards.
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post #14 of 34
Hiya power,

Well now. In rethinking your options there is not much to do other than build your next pc. Dell's are not known for being a good computer. You could upgrade your ram and the video card and these parts will go into your next computer but is it worth putting in a few hundred into a dead end pc? The best bet would be the ram cause 2x1gigs are pretty cheap. The card might run in your box but with that really low psu I don't think it will have the 6pin power cable needed for the 9600gt. You could always look for a 8600gt which would be still a decent upgrade along with the ram but it comes to a point where it is might be throwing away money for components that are not worth much now or when you try to sell them and recoup your costs.

Best bet is to see if your mom is rich and get another one. But you did say that you are going back to school now so she just bought this machine lately right? So
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post #15 of 34
Best low profile gfx card I see:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814162016

Though, I honestly think the cpu is another major factor in your low performance. They don't really make socket 939 amd's anymore, so finding an upgrade would be difficult. You'd probably need a new motherboard.

And if you're going to buy a new motherboard, new graphics card, new cpu, new power supply (for the graphics card) and new ram... you're essentially buying a whole new computer, which if you ask me, is the best option for you if you want good gaming performance. If I were you, I'd build an entirely new system; your current one is far too restrictive when it comes to upgrading. You could build a decent core 2 duo system for about $400 provided you salvage components from your current rig (drives, monitor, input devices, etc), and you'd probably much happier for it.

But then again, you didn't ask for help building a new computer, you asked for help upgrading your current one, for which my above gfx card recommendation stands, and here's a cpu from a company I've used before... not a huge improvement, but at least something:
http://www.starmicro.net/detail.aspx?ID=673
Edited by 711 - 12/21/08 at 10:04am
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post #16 of 34
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i'd considered building my own it doesnt seem too complicated. i'm 90% sure i could put it all together just fine but programming it is where i would run into a brick wall. i have another old dell i could salvage drives from well disc drives the HD burnt out about 1/2 a year after the warranty. I dont want to mess up this one it may be a turd but its reliable havent had any problems so far and i need it for school i can do w/out WOW but not school. The other pc has a cd burner and dvd burner and i think 4 or 5 usb ports and its full size. Theres an ATX HA4 on ebay with a 450w power supp for $22 is that a good case to start building with?
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athlon x2 3800+ 2.0GHz m2n61-ax 2- 512mb cards 250gb 
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250w stock wireless dell 
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athlon x2 3800+ 2.0GHz m2n61-ax 2- 512mb cards 250gb 
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??? vista 32bit 15" flat screen wireless 
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250w stock wireless dell 
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post #17 of 34
In short: no. Any power supply that comes with a case is probably garbage, especially in a sub $100 case. I've had several of these burn out on me (in my less experienced days) sometimes even wrecking a motherboard.

Also, there's no "programming" involved in building a computer... if you can install microsoft office, or other software, you can install windows xp or windows vista... it's an extremely simple process. Even if you can't figure it out, there's online guides you can print out and follow.

Here's a decent $400 system (I don't know your budget):
http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/Pu...Number=8353345
You'd need to already have a keyboard, mouse, monitor, hard drive and cd/dvd drive. It also does not include an operating system (windows), so you'd have to pick the one you think works best for you, and buy that in addition.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...nd&Order=PRICE

With a higher budget, you could certainly build a much better system (the gfx card in particular has plenty of room for improvement), but I think the one I've put together here would fit your needs pretty well.
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Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
WD 1tb/7200/32 7 ultimate x64 ASUS VW266H standard membrane 
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corsair 400w frankenmonster Logitech MX518 cloth 
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post #18 of 34
Darn, I can't seem to make a public wishlist for you. Seeing as how I am partial to AMD I would change the mobo and give you a Phenom x3 8450 along with a Sparkle 9600gt. Total cost is $382. Both 711's and mine would make a very good system and it would last you for some time.
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Phenom 9850 (2.8) m2n32-sli deluxe wifi SLI'd MaxCore 55 (590/1566//1512/999 Mushkin Blue's (2x2) HP2-6400 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
Seagate SataII (500/1000) LG gh22ns30 XP 64 Samsung 2253LW 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
MS Wireless Corsair 650tx Antec 900 MS Wireless 
Mouse Pad
Why? 
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Phenom 9850 (2.8) m2n32-sli deluxe wifi SLI'd MaxCore 55 (590/1566//1512/999 Mushkin Blue's (2x2) HP2-6400 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
Seagate SataII (500/1000) LG gh22ns30 XP 64 Samsung 2253LW 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
MS Wireless Corsair 650tx Antec 900 MS Wireless 
Mouse Pad
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post #19 of 34
I would get a new PSU, MOBO, the extra RAM and GFX card, throw that into a case of some sort and scavenge your old machine for the CPU,HDD,DVD and what ever to complete your new build!
Get a big old case from ebay or somewhere until you have the spare $$££ to get a nice big case with lots of 120mm fans!

Its fairly easy to do and theres PLENTY of help here! just ask!
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OCZ Vertex 4 128GB HP P212/512MB Cache 4 x 1TB SAS 6G Sony Blu Ray 
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EK Supremacy EVO EK D5 Vario Pump, EK Res X3 250 EK CoolStream WE540 with FM181 x3 Windows 7 Pro 64BIT 
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OCZ Vertex 4 128GB HP P212/512MB Cache 4 x 1TB SAS 6G Sony Blu Ray 
CoolingCoolingCoolingOS
EK Supremacy EVO EK D5 Vario Pump, EK Res X3 250 EK CoolStream WE540 with FM181 x3 Windows 7 Pro 64BIT 
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HP ZR24w, Optoma DX606, 84" Panoview Corsair TX750v2 Silverstone RV-02 Black Corsair M65 
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post #20 of 34
Quote:
Originally Posted by BugBash View Post
scavenge your old machine for the CPU
No offence, but that's awful advice in my opinion. Socket 939's been completely phased out, and his current processor is total rubbish as a gaming chip.
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
e8400 @ 3.6 (for now) ecs p43t-a2 9800gt 4gb pc6400 4-4-4-10 
Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
WD 1tb/7200/32 7 ultimate x64 ASUS VW266H standard membrane 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
corsair 400w frankenmonster Logitech MX518 cloth 
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
e8400 @ 3.6 (for now) ecs p43t-a2 9800gt 4gb pc6400 4-4-4-10 
Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
WD 1tb/7200/32 7 ultimate x64 ASUS VW266H standard membrane 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
corsair 400w frankenmonster Logitech MX518 cloth 
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