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The real question will be when we get these is can it OC past 4 to say 4.4 -4.5 hopefully on air without jacking the voltage through the roof. I'm thinking with a good OC'ing board packing the 750sb it will be able too.
Guess that's yet to be seen. That could push them over the edge, cause no way my Q6600 goes that high on air lol. I'd like to see some OCs on air with these new chips, and see how far they go before temps and voltage gets out of control. If AMD can accomplish that, they have a real winner, but i wouldn't hold my breath on 4.5GHz on air.
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yeah, I think it should easily hit 4ghz+ with the SB750.

also, has anyone taken a look at the Athlon X2 7750 BE? clock for clock it's almost perfectly on par with the E8200, and in the gaming benchmarks, the difference between them is so small, that price wise, the 7750 destroys the E8200


and if you haven't noticed, this guy got his deneb 940 up to 3.857ghz for those benchmarks, on a less than stellar chipset for phenoms, AND on air. I'd say 4ghz would be very easy if he had the SB750 instead of the SB600
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yeah, I think it should easily hit 4ghz+ with the SB750.

also, has anyone taken a look at the Athlon X2 7750 BE? clock for clock it's almost perfectly on par with the E8200, and in the gaming benchmarks, the difference between them is so small, that price wise, the 7750 destroys the E8200


and if you haven't noticed, this guy got his deneb 940 up to 3.857ghz for those benchmarks, on a less than stellar chipset for phenoms, AND on air. I'd say 4ghz would be very easy if he had the SB750 instead of the SB600
But we don't know his temps, or if it's really stable (prime 95, OCCT). Remember...all he was doing was running a benchmark, and still..the scores don't lie, they're nothing great. I personally was expecting a good amount of points more than my Q6600 for one.

But if they do OC well like everyone seems to be saying, they'll match up well. Still won't touch i7 though, and even the 45nm C2Q are much faster in that benchmark.
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it's cheaper, that's what. also, AMD is going to come out with a dual core version, that costs something like 90 bucks for the BE version, that performs almost clock for clock with the E8200, but costs nearly half as much.

AMD is coming out with some VERY nice price/performance chips now, and that's why intel should start looking out.

look how much it costs to get the new i7 setup, compared to getting the new deneb setup. it's a big difference
As they say. from your lips to gods' ears. I'd love to see some butt-kicking denebs at insanely cheap prices, but let's be realistic. If they had a cpu that matched the e8200's performance, they'd be fools to sell it for half the price. Heck, even if they sold it for the same price, the cheaper mobo pricing would make it more attractive for a lot of people, so why slash their prices that far? Sadly, I don't think you will see these things for that cheap... though of course I hope I'm mistaken.

In the mean time, I'll pick up an old X2.... let the denebs come out, let Intel drop their pricing to compete, then let AMD drop their pricing to put the squeeze on... then let Intel drop their prices a little farther to remain competitve, and then once AMD drops their prices yet again to reach an equilibrium, then I'll buy in.




Heck, at that point, I'll prolly upgrade the e2180 too!!! lol
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I got the worst chip of the lot, and it does 3.9 on a mobo that does not fully support it. also I have no idea how to oc phenom cpus so someone thats a bit more brushed up with amd tech could most likely get a lot more out of it.

in terms of the score nothing was done to this system to make it go faster. it is vista installed straight off the cd with no updates, motherboard drivers are off the cd and bios is old. Also ram was left untouched. with a bit of playing around with it I am sure I could get it a lot better.
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I got the worst chip of the lot, and it does 3.9 on a mobo that does not fully support it. also I have no idea how to oc phenom cpus so someone thats a bit more brushed up with amd tech could most likely get a lot more out of it.

in terms of the score nothing was done to this system to make it go faster. it is vista installed straight off the cd with no updates, motherboard drivers are off the cd and bios is old. Also ram was left untouched. with a bit of playing around with it I am sure I could get it a lot better.
I'm just talking clock for clock. Doing all that stuff isn't going to improve the clock for clock speed, which doesn't look too hot to me right now.
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As they say. from your lips to gods' ears. I'd love to see some butt-kicking denebs at insanely cheap prices, but let's be realistic. If they had a cpu that matched the e8200's performance, they'd be fools to sell it for half the price. Heck, even if they sold it for the same price, the cheaper mobo pricing would make it more attractive for a lot of people, so why slash their prices that far? Sadly, I don't think you will see these things for that cheap... though of course I hope I'm mistaken.

In the mean time, I'll pick up an old X2.... let the denebs come out, let Intel drop their pricing to compete, then let AMD drop their pricing to put the squeeze on... then let Intel drop their prices a little farther to remain competitve, and then once AMD drops their prices yet again to reach an equilibrium, then I'll buy in.




Heck, at that point, I'll prolly upgrade the e2180 too!!! lol
Here's the chip, and here's the review

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103300
it costs 80 dollars. on newegg, the E8200 costs 160 dollars

here's the review
http://www.guru3d.com/article/amd-at...50-be-review/1

In most of the benchmarks at stock speeds it's just a hair below the E8200, with overclocked at 3.2 beating it, some tests it does lose, but in the gaming tests, they're so close, that it's not worth spending the extra 80 bucks for the E8200. It's a dual core phenom basically, and it kicks ass so much, that I'm wondering if i should get it instead of a deneb
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could you try to get a larger CPUz SS? the original ones were terrible looking

None the less, very nice results

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Very impressive results on a engineering sample cpu that obviously is flawed running on a oldish chipset.
This gives us a good indication of what PhenomII is all about. I'm sure that when the final production cpu's hit the market we'll be able to see the real potential of PhenomII.
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Guess that's yet to be seen. That could push them over the edge, cause no way my Q6600 goes that high on air lol. I'd like to see some OCs on air with these new chips, and see how far they go before temps and voltage gets out of control. If AMD can accomplish that, they have a real winner, but i wouldn't hold my breath on 4.5GHz on air.
4.5Ghz is just cool in its own right but OCing something that high to beat a Q6600 at like 4Ghz or so? Not worth it IMHO. Granted, excellent upgrade path for current AM2/AM2+ users but a perfectly good, used Q6600 that is a good OCer can be had for 150 dollars maybe? I got mine for 125 and it does 4Ghz@1.45V. I commend AMD on their effort but maybe next generation they can really bring the heat onto Intel.
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