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Originally Posted by BizzareRide View Post
You mean $1000+ computer with a GPU that cost as much/more than both consoles BEATS consoles in graphics?

Build a computer that can play those same games at high settings for $199(Price of 360)
The $200 360 alone can only do 640x480 res. Grab a dual/tricore and 780G/790GX and I'm pretty sure you can play a large majority of games on high at that res. There's plenty of low budget combinations you can build for that price.

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Such a shallow comparison... Your not looking at the bigger picture either.

Why would you compare new PC hardware to console hardware which remains static? It would make more sense to compare consoles to tech that coincided with its launch. If not, whats the point?
You've stumbled upon one of the many great things about PC gaming.
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The $200 360 alone can only do 640x480 res. Grab a dual/tricore and 780G/790GX and I'm pretty sure you can play a large majority of games on high at that res. There's plenty of low budget combinations you can build for that price.
I was under the impression that the arcade Xbox 360s had an HDMI port. But, if you are refering to someone buying the Xbox 360 arcade and then not buying an HDTV with it, that's different. The TV isn't a part of the Xbox 360, it's not a one use type thing like most people's monitors are. It's true that some people buy new TVs for gaming, but it's not something that's required when you buy a console. If you decide to buy an LCD or plasma TV later the 720p/1080i capability is always there unlike with a low end graphics choice that could only cope with very low resolutions or settings.
Edited by C.Jackson - 12/21/08 at 10:49pm
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The $200 360 alone can only do 640x480 res. Grab a dual/tricore and 780G/790GX and I'm pretty sure you can play a large majority of games on high at that res. There's plenty of low budget combinations you can build for that price.

Your so misinformed.

The innards of each 360s are the same. So theres no difference between the $200 core 360 and the $400 Elite, both of which output 480p - 1080p over HDMI and component/composite cables natively. The only difference between the variations are the hard drive denominations which are 20GB(Discontinued), 60GB and 120GB.

The consoles sport multi-core processors that are as good or better than your quad-cores for gaming.

Get informed before you quote me again with a reply

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You've stumbled upon one of the many great things about PC gaming.
Sorry but you can't have your cake and eat it too - PC hardware is obviously more advance than whats in consoles but it comes at a price greater than what you pay for consoles.


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I was under the impression that the arcade Xbox 360s had an HDMI port.
You don't *need* HDMI to output a 1080p signal. Its just as easy over VGA, component and/or composite cables.
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Never knew PS3 GTA IV could look so bad considering I own it for the PS3.
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Such a shallow comparison... Your not looking at the bigger picture either.

Why would you compare new PC hardware to console hardware which remains static? It would make more sense to compare consoles to tech that coincided with its launch. If not, whats the point?

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What launched in Nov 2005 along with the 360 that was roughly equal or slightly more powerful? The X1900XT which could have been found for as much as $600 for the high-end parts at launch(You've already spent more on video cards than on any 1 console), now it can barely play new games comfortably.
360 launched at $400. $400 back then could easily get you a 7800GT, which would not only look as good as launch 360 games, but play at a higher resolution too!

PS3 retailed at $600, which could have gotten you an 8800GTX at the time. No contest.
    
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360 launched at $400. $400 back then could easily get you a 7800GT, which would not only look as good as launch 360 games, but play at a higher resolution too!
7800GT would struggle to play most 2007 games on med-low settings, much less ones from 2008, 2009 and 2010 which is when we can expect to see new consoles. And the cheapest 360 was $299 in 2005 - Your getting the same hardware with both variants. Its not an apples to apples comparison which makes in all the more silly.

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PS3 retailed at $600, which could have gotten you an 8800GTX at the time. No contest.
I didn't know you play games with just a graphics card Consoles are a system, graphics cards are a component which means you need other components to work in tandem with it in order for it to work or be of any use And the cheapest PS3 was $499 for the same hardware.


Heres a challenge: Someone build me a $199 rig that can play all the new games on high settings. *Waits as someone cherry picks the cheapest, lowest quality parts from newegg*
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Okay, now compare the PS3 and 360 to a $400 PC and see who the winner is.

This is kind of a silly comparison if you ask me.
Agreed. GL getting 360 level graphics on a $400 PC. This comparison is shat. I love my 360 and my PC. My PC is far more powerful but also cost me alot more.
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360 launched at $400. $400 back then could easily get you a 7800GT, which would not only look as good as launch 360 games, but play at a higher resolution too!

PS3 retailed at $600, which could have gotten you an 8800GTX at the time. No contest.
Yeah but a console is the whole package.
It's simple though, while the consoles age until they are replaced by newer counterparts computer hardware constantly keeps growing and changing. Replacing one component can yield gameplay for the next few years at console levels. If I were to build a $500 computer right now it would exceed the consoles performance in games and would allow for more flexibility of use.

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The consoles sport multi-core processors that are as good or better than your quad-cores for gaming.
It is true that both the Xbox 360 and PS3 both use powerful processors, but they cannot be compared to say a Q6600 because they are totally different architectures. And while the Xbox 360 or PS3 are 100% dedicated to gaming a computer on the other hand is running Windows and other applications in the background, not just whatever game you are playing at the moment. Console developers also optimize the games better for the hardware in the Xbox 360 or the PS3; computers range from 733MHz P3 to Core i7 920s, computers are all different so it can't be optimized to run on one single system configuration. The GPUs in either console aren't as good as even a 8800GT today so I won't even argue with you there.

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Agreed. GL getting 360 level graphics on a $400 PC. This comparison is shat. I love my 360 and my PC. My PC is far more powerful but also cost me alot more.
Just because your computer costed alot doesn't mean they all have to. For $435 you can build a mid-end gaming rig that will excel beyond both the Xbox 360 and PS3 in games. You can also do more with a computer, there's more flexibility.
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It is true that both the Xbox 360 and PS3 both use powerful processors, but they cannot be compared to say a Q6600 because they are totally different architectures. And while the Xbox 360 or PS3 are 100% dedicated to gaming a computer on the other hand is running Windows and other applications in the background, not just whatever game you are playing at the moment. Console developers also optimize the games better for the hardware in the Xbox 360 or the PS3; computers range from 733MHz P3 to Core i7 920s, computers are all different so it can't be optimized to run on one single system configuration. The GPUs in either console aren't as good as even a 8800GT today so I won't even argue with you there.
Thats why I said "...for gaming" their processors are as good as any desktop CPU. The developers can control every process that gets handed of to the CPU, not true for PC for the reasons you mentioned. Thats why the consoles have in-order executing cores and not OoOE cores.
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You mean $1000+ computer with a GPU that cost as much/more than both consoles BEATS consoles in graphics?

Build a computer that can play those same games at high settings for $199(Price of 360)



This.
If you take into consideration the fact that unlike consoles. A PC is a PC. Not a console. No one buys a PC for the sole purpose of gaming, they buy it to be a PC, and a gaming platform. The reason computers cost so much more is because they can do a larger variety of things.
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