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Maybe it's not possible to detect them yet without new drivers
It's under NDA. Enough to let me suspect something big.
    
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Seems that for 2560x1600 the 4870x2 is still better but not for any other resolution. Fair enough, good product Nvidia as long as the price is right.
Just wait till the drivers 'mature' and the performance that was accidently 'not put in' is put in.
    
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Ain't this still a preview?
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Just wait till the drivers 'mature' and the performance that was accidently 'not put in' is put in.
The drivers will nor imprive that much. Why? because GTX295 its just SLI GTX series card so GTX260 already got its driver update. Also i love the Enthusiast-HardOCP review. They say that is no close to 4870X2 killer.
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Seems that for 2560x1600 the 4870x2 is still better but not for any other resolution. Fair enough, good product Nvidia as long as the price is right.
Depends on the game and the settings used. For some games, turning on AA + AF at 2560 x 1600 actually widens the performance difference between the two cards, pushing the 295 further into the lead. I'm thinking perhaps 8xAA would change things though. With proper drivers and all bugs ironed out (it's not simply GTX 260/280 SLI), I'm sure its performance can only improve. The MRSP of $499 is also very attractive.

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The GTX-295 for sure beats the HD4870 in most cases, but the price is also higher...
What? Of course, even the GTX 280 does that in virtually every benchmark. The 295 beats the 4870X2 in most tests, and it's priced at a very similar level.
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Depends on the game and the settings used. For some games, turning on AA + AF at 2560 x 1600 actually widens the performance difference between the two cards, pushing the 295 further into the lead. I'm thinking perhaps 8xAA would change things though. With proper drivers and all bugs ironed out (it's not simply GTX 260/280 SLI), I'm sure its performance can only improve. The MRSP of $499 is also very attractive.



What? Of course, even the GTX 280 does that in virtually every benchmark. The 295 beats the 4870X2 in most tests, and it's priced at a very similar level.
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The Radeon HD 4870 X2 is a unique video card because it takes two of AMD’s highest-end GPUs and puts them on a single board, with all the glory of their fastest GDDR5 memory. NVIDIA didn’t do that here; much like the 9800 GX2. NVIDIA instead used the memory subsystem of the GTX 260. The GTX 260 has 128MB less RAM and a more narrow memory bus than the GTX 280. This is its weakness at high settings and our game testing has proven that. We are still not going to rule out the possibility of immature drivers for this card, but our gut tells us otherwise and time will surely confirm or deny our thoughts on this.

Fallout 3 performs faster on the Radeon HD 4870 X2 at 2560x1600 with 8X AA and the highest in-game settings. Crysis: Warhead performs faster on the Radeon HD 4870 X2 at 1920x1200 with 8X AA. See a pattern? When you really start to crank up the settings, a high resolution plus a high AA setting like 8X AA, the 4870 X2 is pulling ahead. This shows some kind of possible memory bottleneck with the GTX 295.
[H] thinks the same thing about higher AA levels.

Until Nvidia chooses to prioritize the dual GPU card and not just fab it for mythical "Crown" status, they will have the inferior dual GPU solution.

The difference is ATI has chosen this tech, Nvidia's offering is always an OMG we gotta get the "Crown" back reaction.
I have no doubt that Nvidia could produce a phenomonal dual gpu card, if they so choose.
But they would have to change pretty much their whole GPU vision.

1 power connector per pcb, why do single pcb GT200's use 2?
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[H] thinks the same thing about higher AA levels.

Until Nvidia chooses to prioritize the dual GPU card and not just fab it for mythical "Crown" status, they will have the inferior dual GPU solution.

The difference is ATI has chosen this tech, Nvidia's offering is always an OMG we gotta get the "Crown" back reaction.
I have no doubt that Nvidia could produce a phenomonal dual gpu card, if they so choose.
But they would have to change pretty much their whole GPU vision.

1 power connector per pcb, why do single pcb GT200's use 2?
Because quite simply, "There's two power plugs per card"
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My 4870X2 just jumped under the bed crying. Oh wait. It's cheaper and is a performance equal. I feel better.

Guess I hafta buy a 4870 to run Crossfire Y
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My 4870X2 just jumped under the bed crying. Oh wait. It's cheaper and is a performance equal. I feel better.

Guess I hafta buy a 4870 to run Crossfire Y
Well..''performance equal''. If you want to stretch what ''equal'' is then I guess. For Fallout 3 yeah, but most other games it lags behind by more than 10%, the average being 25%. But as long as you're seeing over 40 fps and you don't play anything by Crytek then you're fine.
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who's lagging? the 4870X2 or the Nvidia card?
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