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Originally Posted by Spart View Post
How is the mighty mouse great if it's left and right suck along with center click? A damn $5 mouse do those just fine. The mighty mouse is overpriced IMO. Frickin $50.... I paid that much for my G5 which is a laser mouse and a helluva lot more comfortable.

Also a multi-touch mouse is a waste. Any one who could possibly benefit from it have a tablet or the like.
are you saying the mighty mouse isnt laser?

edit: just looked at apple's site, the wired mighty mouse is optical, the wireless is laser
Edited by oregonducks45 - 12/21/08 at 11:19pm
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post #42 of 63
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Originally Posted by oregonducks45 View Post
are you saying the mighty mouse isnt laser?

edit: just looked at apple's site, the wired mighty mouse is optical, the wireless is laser

Indeed. I have sold more than enough of these mice to know. Price on the wireless is decent if it's comfortable for you but the wired version is ridiculous. It's a generation behind in tracking technology and it's wired to boot.

Also Marin he said they suck and then said the mouse is great. Thus why my response to him was in the form of a question. His statement made no sense. I haven't messed with the mice on the iMac's at work enough to comment since they are INSANELY uncomfortable IMO. I think hand size is to blame.
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Looks like a rock I'd use to decorate my fish bowl. Like many Mac products it appears to have had form put before function in its design.
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1. The Mighty Mice were never designed for intense gaming, but rather more on Mac usability enhancements (side scroll, show Dashboard, etc).
2. The plastic they used actually looked cheaper than they did in the pictures.

They really exaggerated when marketing the first Mighty Mouse (something about being "touch-sensitive" under the shell and "force-sensitive" side buttons that don't take a genius to figure out how it really works). If that's anything to base my expectations on, then I wouldn't expect much from this.
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By looking at Apple's current pricing for their products and what hardware comes along with it? It's not a secret that Apple severely overprices their products that come outfitted with the latest hardware which you can find for much, MUCH cheaper on a PC. The current MacBooks and MacBook Pro's come with some DECENT hardware at an unimaginably high price. $2000+ gets you a MacBook Pro with a mid-ranged Core 2 Duo and 2GB of ram, and an 8600 GT M graphics card. I can customize a dell XPS or an alienware notebook, (which also have their fair-share of overpricing), and STILL spend around $1000+ on the same exact hardware found in the MacBook Pro for the exact same, if not better performance.
We've done many comparisons on this site, and every time we've found the price difference to be around $100 most of the time, $300 max. This fictitious "2-3x overcharging" myth is not unexpected on an OCing forum.

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I stepped into the Apple store a few weeks ago, and they sell their default wired keyboards and wired mice at 50$ a pop, with their wireless ones selling closer to $100.
Well let's take a look at this. My microsoft digital media pro keyboard was $30. It's a clunky, plastic, loud, keyboard that has buttons that are kinda starting to stick, and it's got all kinds of weird buttons in strange places.

The apple keyboard, while I would not spend the money on one, is slim as can be in an aluminum casing. The design is very simplistic and elegant. A product that has undergone more cost in engineering is naturally going to cost more. There is more to an apple keyboard than there is to a plastic keyboard of another brand. The cost didn't come out of nowhere.

Here we have another keyboard, the zboard, designed with gaming in mind:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16823161013

Its price is $50. If I were to say that the $50 price tag came out of nowhere, I would be neglecting the design engineering that went into it.

The price is like that for a reason, and it doesn't have much to do with a company's name.

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Originally Posted by brandon6199 View Post
Both my Logitech G7 and my Logitech G11 keyboard and mouse costed under $100 and are FAR better than Apple's generic keyboard and mouse.
The slimmest non-plastic keyboard and a touch-sensing mouse that uses a 360˚ scroll ball are "generic?" I can see that your problem with these products lies in your misunderstanding.

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Price on the wireless is decent if it's comfortable for you but the wired version is ridiculous. It's a generation behind in tracking technology and it's wired to boot.
Personally speaking, I'd rather have a Logitech. I'm not a fan of the shape of the apple mice, and I'd rather have two distinct buttons than one. Two side buttons, one on each side, is a cool thing, though.

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Originally Posted by arkheii View Post
1. The Mighty Mice were never designed for intense gaming, but rather more on Mac usability enhancements (side scroll, show Dashboard, etc).
Exactly.

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Originally Posted by arkheii View Post
They really exaggerated when marketing the first Mighty Mouse (something about being "touch-sensitive" under the shell and "force-sensitive" side buttons that don't take a genius to figure out how it really works). If that's anything to base my expectations on, then I wouldn't expect much from this.
Yeah, I remember when they released them, that was when I still disliked apple products. I went into a store and tried the mouse out. It was different, but it was still kinda "eh." It still is.

Solution: Logitech
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Apple has had right click mighty mouses for a while now. They are just rediculously annoying and uncomfortable. It looks like 1 click because its a solid case but it does right and left click.
Not really. People with poor finger placement are the only ones having difficulty.
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apples theory: make things simple

1 button is simpler than 2 buttons.

shut up with the right click crap.


1. IMO: Last gen Apple Wireless Keyboard is better, Apple took off too many buttons, including num pad
2. Apple Mouse is horrible for gaming because you can't left click while holding right click (or any other click) and visa versa (bad for FPS games)
3. Wired Apple Mouse Price: Horrible, Wireless Apple Mouse Price: Not bad, considering it is bluetooth
4. I own both last gen Wireless Keyboard and Mouse (got it for grad present). I only use it for my MBP and even then, I hardly use it. The touchpad and built-in keyboard works for surfing and school work. My desktop is all Logitech keyboard/mouse, but then again, its for CAD and gaming.
5. Apple should get rid of the left and right side click. Makes no sense.
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post #48 of 63
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That's like saying I don't think nVidia should release more video cards, because they just got the hang of DX10.
Just a little joke. Don't get too butt-hurt about it D;

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And Apple has had the ability to right click for years now.
Introducing right-clicking in 2005 when it's been around on PCs since the 80s makes "they've had it for years now" a bad retort :/
Edited by Solertia - 12/22/08 at 6:20am
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post #49 of 63
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Well let's take a look at this. My microsoft digital media pro keyboard was $30. It's a clunky, plastic, loud, keyboard that has buttons that are kinda starting to stick, and it's got all kinds of weird buttons in strange places.

The apple keyboard, while I would not spend the money on one, is slim as can be in an aluminum casing. The design is very simplistic and elegant. A product that has undergone more cost in engineering is naturally going to cost more. There is more to an apple keyboard than there is to a plastic keyboard of another brand. The cost didn't come out of nowhere.
People get too bent outta shape about a keyboard and mouse (not picking on you here, just saying in general).

I play games quite a bit, and here is what I use:

Logitech SBF-90 Mouse
Logitech Value 100 Keyboard

.... they're as useful as I could need, and work perfectly well.

I've tried out some of my friend's expensive "gaming" mice and keyboards... and never really saw (or felt, I guess) the big deal... or much of any difference. To be honest, I've gotten so use to my setup, that I'd prefer it over a much more expensive set.

I know we're not just talking about games here, but in the overall, I'll stick with my ~12 dollar set. Besides, if I spill beer on them it's not much of a loss.

Sometimes I think people's issues are more of a PEBKAC error than anything else.
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Getting back in topic.....


Personally, though I don't think I'll buy this specific mouse because I love the shape of my G5 and find it very comfortable, I really like the idea of multi-touch on a mouse. Think about how terrible most scroll-wheels function - they get the job done, but often make noises of just plain don't feel very pleasing to use. Like it or not, Apple has touch sensitivity down between the click wheel and their touchscreen devices. I think they could stand to make a very solid mouse with a non-traditional scroll wheel (hopefully an idea other manufactures copy)
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