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Thanks guys.

While the thread's bumped, here's some loop planning I was doing. I need to do some cutting into my pieces to allow tubing to pass through, and I don't want to do that until I'm sure I have a workable plan... So any and all feedback is welcome here.

I couldn't seem to properly illustrate this with one or two shots, so here's a little pictorial description of my plans.

Pump and res will be up top. Res feeds pump, and then pump outlets straight down:



The res I haven't settled on, but the one mocked up there is the new EK Spinner. Its got the right layout of inlets and outlets for what I'm planning, but its pretty pricy and I'm not totally enamored of it, so if anyone knows of a better solution there, I'm all ears.

From up top, the flow takes a straight shot down through the false floor:



From there, it travels up front to one of the front rads, and across to the other:



After the second front rad, flow travels down and then back under the false floor:



Where it enters the third rad:



After which it goes back up through the false floor, to the CPU > GPU > and then back up top to the res:



This solution seemed to be the cleanest in terms of tubing. Other than what you see in the last pic, the only normally visible tubing will be the single line dropping down from the top to feed the front rads.

How's that look?
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i like it up until the last rad.. i would personally flip it 180. it still shows the mobo without having the tubing cover it like so. and if you do plan on adding a gpu. it'll look better that way too i think...

EDIT: imma take your pictures and do a little retubing and see what i can get out of it.
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That's a lot for that pump eh?

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hmm.. i would say looks wise. it would definitely be the most clean looking. though i'm quite sure you could shorten the amount of tubing you need to use.
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i don't know much about water cooling, but i'd rather you reverse the pump flow to go through the hot waterblocks first. that way, most of the heat will be exhausted before the water hits the pump again. it might prolong the pump life, and decrease the res temps.
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i will disagree with you curly. you want the water hitting the rads first then hitting the cpu as the cpu is more temp reliant than gpus. gpus aren't as sensitive. the way he has it would be optimum.

he won't be using a res from what i recall. he'll be using a t-line to make it cleaner. less cluster is always good.

plus the D5 is an industrial pump. it'll take pretty much anything he throws at it with ease.

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hey war,

i gotta ask, are you willing to use differet rads or are you set on the MCR220s?

and here is my version.. it'll save you some tubing. if you are willing to go with a different rad at the bottom. it'll save you even more. the less tubing you have the better.














i was thinking about 2x X-flows and 1x GXT or MCR220. but then you might need higher CFM fans and i'm not too sure about your tolerance for noise so thats why i'm hesitant to suggest them.

i'll do some more picturing to show how it would look with the Xflows.

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here are what the flow would look like with the Xflows.












Edited by nafljhy - 2/19/09 at 1:30pm
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Thanks legoman786, and welcome!

Curly, I think nafljhy hit it there, although I have read that temp differences across a loop vary very little in the long run.

nafljhy, thanks for weighing in. I like your changes, but I *think* clearance is too tight there. I have reworked my plan on the HDs and the DVD (DVD is now going up top), and I was planning on reversing them so the wiring is facing out, but I'm not sure til I get them in there just how much room I really have back there.

I also might be able to fish a line through along side the fans, although I don't think it would be as cool lookin.

Is the extra tubing a really bad idea? I could probably come up with something flipping that bottom rad like you suggested that could be a compromise. Pump feeding down to the bottom rad, then up to the front rads, then out to the components?

edit: reading through your edit naf. lol

Well, I already have two of the Swifties. I chose them for their form factor (clearances are fairly tight in all three locations) and for their decent performance with the lower speed fans (noise isn't a big issue for me, but it is for the wifey ). I really haven't read much on the X-flows. Swiftech does have a "stacker" coming out too, but I don't think that will help me any. Hrm.

I'll get these pieces bolted together and bolted in, and rework the HD's and see how much room I *really* have. I have planned on 5/8 OD tubing all along, so that should help a bit. I picked up a 3 dollar roll of cheapy stuff to play around with too.
Edited by Warfarin88 - 2/19/09 at 1:41pm
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its only bad if you have bunch load.. teh only part of your initial design, that really caught me was the first huge tubing from the pump to the first rad. every feet of tubing is a bit more restriction your pump has to work harder with.

as for clearance issues.. what about behind your mobo tray? like make a U shaped tubing hole for when you have your side panel on. it'd save on some tubing that way too and would still make it look nice instead of having to drill a hole into that panel over there.

EDIT: if you really do need to run it straight down like that.. i figure that 3x Xflows would work perfectly. as it starts from the bottom exits the top for the first rad. enters the top and exits the bottom for the second rad. then enters the right and exits the left for the third rad.

this way you can still run it straight down pretty much keep your original plans and still save on some space and tubing.

EDIT2: hmm.. as much as that would work.. i wouldn't want you to go through doing more internal panels. i would feel thats just a huge step backwards for very little progress.
Edited by nafljhy - 2/19/09 at 1:42pm
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The interior trim I still need to redo, and I'm asking the questions now since I have cut any of the tubing runs into the frame pieces yet.

What would REALLY simplify things would be if I would just let one of the central fans go, but I just can't do it. I like them there, and I'm going to make it work with them dammit.

One thing I know for sure, the budget is saying no sale to benching the two 220's I already have. Heck, I even had to go through my first RMA to keep one of em. So... those two are staying regardless. Beyond that, I have a fetish for matching components. Always have. I'm working on it though. Swiftech's making it tough though. Decent performance, good track record, and affordable to boot. I've been favoring the GTZ and the MCW60 too.

Thanks a ton for your insight naf. I have a "thing" tonight, but I'll think on it some more.
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The interior trim I still need to redo, and I'm asking the questions now since I have cut any of the tubing runs into the frame pieces yet.

What would REALLY simplify things would be if I would just let one of the central fans go, but I just can't do it. I like them there, and I'm going to make it work with them dammit.

One thing I know for sure, the budget is saying no sale to benching the two 220's I already have. Heck, I even had to go through my first RMA to keep one of em. So... those two are staying regardless. Beyond that, I have a fetish for matching components. Always have. I'm working on it though. Swiftech's making it tough though. Decent performance, good track record, and affordable to boot. I've been favoring the GTZ and the MCW60 too.

Thanks a ton for your insight naf. I have a "thing" tonight, but I'll think on it some more.
have fun! i like the fans where they are too. i don't plan on letting them go. hehe. i'll think some more on it and see what i can figure out.

if you already have 2 of 3 rads.. i would get the third of the same. i like having matching components too so i know how you feel.
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