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Very nice build!! Love the orange and black mix. Btw have you overclocked your ram at all?
Thanks Dar.

Negative on the ram overclock. I increased the voltage to recommended specs, but that was it. I haven't overclocked anything yet. I want to, but right now this machine handles everything I throw at it with ease, so there really hasn't been a pressing need.

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Lookin shmexie, Warf!

The case....

I laughed. Thanks Syrillian.


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This case I will have no problem sleeping with making babies
I lauged again! Thanks PotatoChip.

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glad to hear that you're happy with with temps and your success into WC'ing.

as for the grill in the back, i tend to remove it b/c like you said, it stifles the airflow. :
Thanks naf. It's remarkably simple really. I just have a tendency to complicate things unnecessarily.

I probably will remove the grill ultimately. It was amongst the left overs of the A16 case I looted, so I just tossed it on there.

In other news, I have decided to take the day off. Hours of de-pinning, soldering, and sleeving just doesn't sound like a real good time today. I have to work later tonight, so I'm enjoying the time I have.

In other other news, I have poor impulse control. I stumbled on this little dandy, and couldn't restrain myself. Thats a dialed down version of the one in my case, for almost half the price I paid originally. The newer 260's don't look like they have the back plate, so I figured this was as good a chance as any to get two "matching" cards. The free shipping sealed the deal. Commensurate water cooling accessories are on the way from PPC's as well.

Now the question is SLI, or fold? I can't fold SLI I don't think? I need to look into that. I suppose I also need to sort out how to overclock these cards.

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yea, thats right.. you can't fold while in SLI. so i say fold.
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I say fold be default, but when you go into a game just enable SLI
Or you can always just use one video card for gaming... It's not like it can't handle it .
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I agree fellas. Fold ftw.

I did hook up the new card on air just to test it though. This is with no overclocks, "previous system" is with SLI enabled:



And for giggles, here's what pumping up one card's core clock to 710MHz is worth: (no SLI, just the card on water)



I had it as high as 730, but it wasn't quite stable while gaming, so I dialed it back a bit. FWIW, temps were beautiful the whole time, the highest I saw was 38 celcius.

I don't have any real update folks, sorry. I've been really busy the last several weeks. For the active service and Vets out there, here's some acronyms for you: MEB, PEB, TDRL, with liberal doses of JAG along the way. Still have the VA to duke it out with. I (reluctantly) started the whole process in Dec 08, and I finally start clearing 06 May. I'd be happy to talk that whole deal in PM's if anyone feels like commiserating.

As far as Sleeper, I got some work done on the wiring. If you recall, I needed to lengthen the 6 pins PCI leads. Got that sorted, and prepped for the new card:



To help tame things up top, I only individually sleeved them part way. Here's where they exit the top of the case:



I'm thinking some sort of plate affair ala the Thermaltake Spedo to tame those and keep the side panel from bulging. More to follow there.

LOTS more wiring still to sort:





I've also been thinking about the loop, since I'll be draining it sooner or later to add the new card. If I fab a new bracket, I can rotate the pump 90 degrees on axis and reverse system flow. Instead of pump>rads>gpu>gpu>cpu>res, it would go pump>cpu>gpu>gpu>rads>res. I'm not so much worried about the card heat dump, but I thought the extra pressure wouldn't hurt cpu block any, and would keep my options open in the future for other more restrictive impingement style blocks. The down side is I think at minimum I'll need either a 90 about 3 inches from the pump outlet; or a 45 attached directly to the pump outlet and another 45 about 2 inches away in order to plumb it.

The other option is to relocate the pump. (yeah yeah, I know, you all suggested this a long time ago)

I mocked up what that would look like with a quicky photochop:



Order there would be res>pump>cpu>rads>gpu>gpu>res. Looks good in text, but the plumbing is a little cluttered.

The good news is either alternative also uses the "top" outlet on the EK top, which iirc is slightly improved performance wise over the "front" one that I'm using now.

Somewhat off topic, but I looked around but didn't find much in the way of examples. Does anyone know how feasible it is to plumb tri-SLI using MCW-60's instead of full cover blocks?
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looking good tbh. as for plumbing..

i would just go from pump->rads->cpu->gpus->res.

but your other option of pump, cpu, gpus, rads, res is also good too.
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looking good tbh. as for plumbing..

i would just go from pump->rads->cpu->gpus->res.

but your other option of pump, cpu, gpus, rads, res is also good too.
I know you like that idea Naf, I just don't like the extra tubing it involves in the main case part. Its purely a vanity thing. I just don't like the way it looks.

I might give the other notion a try though. That will look pretty much identical. We'll see. The closer I get to putting the sides on this thing, the less and less I want to mess with it. I think that's probably a good thing.

In other news, I decided to play a little hooky from work this afternoon, and got some more stuff done.

Remember the temp sensors?



I got them all wired up. Power was easy, I wired the pump's 12V to a female molex and used the empty 5V slots for the displays. That molex plugs directly into the PSU.

For the leads to the sensors themselves, I didn't want to hard wire them direct, so its easier to swap one out in the future if either a display or a sensor fails. So, I soldered a two pin mini connector onto each sensor lead:



To recap, one sensor is taking water temp from the res, one from down below in between the front and bottom rads. I also have two for air, and decided to just use BP sensors there too, for well, no real reason. Satisfaction of my OCD maybe?

Anywho, one is supposed to be reading my "air in" temp, or a reasonable approximation of ambient. I have that tucked in the front cavity, mounted here:



The other is getting a case ambient, in the motherboard compartment. That's mounted here:



Not sure I'm happy with that mount, but it works for now.

And... the result. This is after running F@H for about 30 mins, but with no real stress on the CPU:



What you're looking at from top left is water temp at rads, water temp at res, air temp as it enters case, air temp inside case. The case temp is not really applicable at the moment, since I don't have the side on, but all in all, not a bad air to water temp variance.

I'm anxious to see how it does after I throw another 260 in there.
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looks sooooo nice.
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That is a crazy amount of sleeving and it looks great. How long would you say that it took you to sleeve the whole thing?

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looks sooooo nice.
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That is a crazy amount of sleeving and it looks great. How long would you say that it took you to sleeve the whole thing?
Thank you LiquidForce. I honestly have no idea how long it took me. Hours. A lot of them. Practically every cable has been lengthened or shortened as well, so toss a lot of time spent soldering in there as well.

I have another update of sorts. I decided to put a little stress on the system, and see how well the radiators would hold up. I loaded up the overclocked profile for the GPU, and fired up F@H. Then I fired up Prime, and let the whole thing simmer for about 2.5 hours:



Processor temps held up nicely, and so did water temps:



I think I have some comfortable headroom there.

While that was going on, I got busy on some cable management. Here's a bunch of shots, some stuff done this afternoon, some stuff I'd already done.

Low profile power for the HD's: (the raptors aren't going to be used, I just had them in there for a test fit on the wires)



8 pin mobo line that I had lengthened so I could bottom mount the PSU. I didn't feel like shortening it again, so I tucked it here:



Extended extension for the mobo headers:



The plate I mentioned earlier to help corral the 24 pin and the GPU power. It's mounted on lian li standoffs screwed into unused mobo holes, and bolted in with M3 socket heads:



(can't really see it in these shots, but its cut from a scrap of 2mm thick brushed lian li)



All in all, it's starting to come together. Here's a broad shot with me photoshopping up this post in the background:



All I have left is the fan leads, and the 4 pin molex power to the fan controllers.

I did have one mishap. The temp sensor in the mobo tray was interfering with the cable management cover plate I made, so I decided to pull it out. I managed to bend the tray in the process:



I'm pretty sure I can hammer it out, but it's not going to happen any time soon. I don't feel like tearing everything out of there. I might try some edge molding. That would probably cover it up.

Getting there...
Edited by Warfarin88 - 4/21/09 at 3:37pm
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oooh! looks very very clean. me loves it! :

*fortune teller voice*i foresee some brass in your future.

yes?


as for the question about how long it takes to sleeve a psu... i would guess around 9+ hours.

and i see you liquid!
Edited by nafljhy - 4/21/09 at 3:48pm
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