I find the attitudes of OCNer's very interesting at times.
Im so amazed (and roundly pleased) to see OCNers aren't verbally lynching Psystar. With respect, it's strange to see that copyright holder "butt-kissing" only applies to the entertainment industry. But someone goes and challenges apple on a product that is rightfully theirs and a result of not art, but a manufactured, engineered and designed product they rightly own and the whole techno-elite is behind them.
Meh, I'm just glad to be in agreement with you all for once.
Originally Posted by ElMikeTheMike
But it's still Apple's property and they can do whatever they want with it. This psystar crap is getting old. Give it up already.
Generally speaking it is usually the case, if something is purchased at retail (as Psystar is purchasing OSX) it can be resold, even modified and then resold. I don't know if special rules apply in software land, but in the world of manufactured products what I said is true.
I once did marketing for a company that sold modified units of their competitors, which was legal because we paid full retail for all the units we were modifying. The other company was completely aware of what we were doing.
Moving away from actual law now, IMO - Personal property laws should empower the user and thus nullify the EULA Apple makes people agree to. I can make someone sign a contract that says I am their Master and they have to do what I say - But you can't enforce an illegal contract. Apple's EULA should be declared illegal as thousands of contracts are ever year. It is common to write a clause into a contract that is in blatant contradiction to law.
The Mac comes with full software packages.
Originally Posted by gex80
The quality of the software cannot raise the price of the laptops 2-300 dollars more compared to a windows counter-part being that mac OSX is only 129.99 and windows is 239.99 for Vista HP.
No one can honestly say their laptops are fairly priced(before the refresh they just had). The white mac books cost more than their PC counterparts with the same exact specs in them, the only difference between the two was the OS and 300 dollars no matter what OS does not justify the difference in price. If that OS is 300 more just to have it installed, then i say just give me a empty laptop and I'll pick up the OS from a store for 170dollars less.
The PC comes with bloatware and trial software. The mac runs faster with lower spec than the PC does at higher spec. The Mac will do more things out of the box than the PC.
Originally Posted by b.walker36
Apple should win this case. It is there software which is clear as day. They should be able to use it in any manner or form they wanted. If they wanted to just look at it on a screen and not sell it to anyone they have that right.
I do not have a mac so don't call me a fanboy. I just think people can not separate their hate for a company when a issue arises. I am talking a step into the mac world when i graduate. I just want a well built computer that will last years and there is no doubt macs have better craftsmanship then the pc counterparts.
The problem with your argument is that Apple is a company selling its products. I don;t know the last time when Toyota called me and told me how to drive my car, and likewise Apple has no right to dictate what Psystar does with the copies of OSX they are legitimately buying from Apple. And if Apple does have such a right, personal property laws need to be changed to eliminate such a right. - Unless you want Microsoft to have the power to brick your XBOX 360 when XBOX 720 comes out. Your property, should be yours and no one else'. In any other industry Psystar's actions would be considered plainly and obviously legal.Edited by WhiteCrane - 1/5/09 at 1:24am