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Hateful words are derogatory whether they are intended as a joke, or not. The fact of the matter is that not everybody on OCN may find such language funny. In a nutshell, if you can't resist the urge to swear in a responce to a thread, then don't post.

Now that this thread has been cleaned, stay on topic please.
I can't find anything funny that is all bleeped out.

This is a shame. They will go to any hights. Im surprised they havent tried Pres Bush yet.
    
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Regardless of what you think of the person being sued, the RIAA is not helping themselves by suing people like this.

People are only going to see the headline and hate them even more than they did previously. And you don't buy things from people you don't like, now do you?
    
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I think the RIAA should burn.
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This is true, the RIAA has not won a single lawsuit in court, but I am sure that many of the people who settle would have lost in court and took the cheaper way out.
The people who settle out of court are scared into doing it. The prospect of losing a sum of money equal to the value of your house is pretty scary.

It also doesn't help matters that the judges are tech illiterate, and the RIAA has even been known to rig the juries!


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It is random. Also, when you are guilty by an IP address, it has no personal information. They also have shut down sites as opposed to hitting those who upload. Also, selling bootleg dvd's is not digital and is not what we are discussing.
IP addresses are not proof of guilt. In pretty much all of their lawsuits, that is the sole evidence they have against the person. The RIAA has seemed to persuade the court into thinking IP's are more damning than DNA evidence.

Of course, bootleg dvd's are not digital.. But those are the real criminals, those are the people profiting off work that is not theirs. They should be taken down, not people who could very well be your friends or neighbors.

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My dad does Patent and Trademark law. I have discussed this argument with him. The law states that you are allowed to make one personal copy for your own use to serve as a backup, nothing more.
This isn't even about that. Piracy is copying, not stealing. Going into walmart and taking a CD off the shelf would be stealing.

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I never said it stopped piracy. I said it was an annoying feature intended to slow people down as they have no other option. Although I am sure it stops some people as they get angry and give up and go buy the game.
You... Don't even know how piracy works, do you? One person cracks the game and uploads it for everyone else to grab. DRM does not turn a single pirate into a purchaser.

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They hit everyone. Take Supernova.
They go after whoever they can scare into settling out of court with and whatever sites they can overwhelm. Ever see some of the docs that were leaked? In one instance, they pretty much said they didn't have a case against the people they were going after, but they would overwhelm them with so much legal fees it would force them to shutdown.

Using the RIAA's logic, gunshops should be held liable for people who buy guns and commit crimes, and car companies should be liable if someone gets into an accident. Torrent sites host nothing illegal.

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Then why pirate it?
Everything has a value. Often times it is FAR below the price they want you to pay for it. The old "1 hit song + 14 crappy rushjobs" concept has been going on for a damn long time.

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Well to be honest when I look at charts showing the RIAA profits and how they are plummeting I assume that is stupid. Also, the heads of the companies don't end up keeping the money it goes towards paying for the stuff they are doing i.e. legal fees paying the people who harvest the IP's etc.
Shocking, isn't it? Produce crappy material, and your sales will slump!

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Artists do get money from album sales and as I said before I believe that you should always purchase in a manner that allows the artists to get the most money, like buying a CD at a concert or buying directly off of their website.
Yes, they do get money. But it is pennies on the dollar. It is a negligible amount. The fatcats pocket the bulk of it. That's wrong.

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It does, but it also forces many companies out of business and prevents new ones from forming as they cannot make a profit.
Quite true. Independent game developers can get hit very hard by this. I do not support game piracy in the least. But the RIAA and the MPAA? They can go rot. They are a disgrace to this country.

And regarding your previous comment about the RIAA not wanting to look bad, or inflict pain, glance over some of these articles. Gives you some insight into the mind of these crooked people.

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An RIAA representative who showed up at Andersen's door, according to her current lawyer, Lory Lybeck: "We're going to ruin you. We're going to sue you for over a million dollars."
http://blog.wired.com/music/2007/09/...awsuit--1.html

The RIAA responding to that case, claiming they did nothing wrong
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post...ing-wrong.html

The RIAA suing an autobody shop, over a worker playing a radio that customers could hear. They sued them for £200,000. The judge refused to throw out the case. Funny thing is, radio stations already pay royalties to them to broadcast the songs in the first place! This is greed at its finest. Radio is FREE.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1909311/posts


Circumstances like the above are the majority, not the minority. Anyone who supports such a crooked organization that is fueled by greed, and defined by such a complete disregard for their fellow person, should be ashamed of themselves.
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Except for the fact you are illegally making a copy of the music. Ya sure.
How does that make sense - How can you make a copy of something you don't have? It was made available by the original owners and I don't hear of people getting arrested for copying audio CDs to their computer or MP3 player.
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The people who settle out of court are scared into doing it. The prospect of losing a sum of money equal to the value of your house is pretty scary.

It also doesn't help matters that the judges are tech illiterate, and the RIAA has even been known to rig the juries!
The RIAA has not rigged juries. That is ridiculous. For all the mistakes the RIAA makes and people show in order to justify Piracy I think we would have known about this by now. And you should not speak for all of those who have not had mainstream trials as you, of all the people who should represent those who have been sued and settled with the RIAA, are not qualified to do so.

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IP addresses are not proof of guilt. In pretty much all of their lawsuits, that is the sole evidence they have against the person. The RIAA has seemed to persuade the court into thinking IP's are more damning than DNA evidence.
I never said they were. I did say however that at this point in time they are being used as proof, and you cannot determine personal characteristics such as gender age race etc from a 12 digit number.

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Of course, bootleg dvd's are not digital.. But those are the real criminals, those are the people profiting off work that is not theirs. They should be taken down, not people who could very well be your friends or neighbors.
Off topic, and they both are breaking the law.

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This isn't even about that. Piracy is copying, not stealing. Going into Walmart and taking a CD off the shelf would be stealing.
It does not matter what your interpretation of the word piracy is, the legal definition of Piracy is what you do when you "copy" copyrighted material.

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You... Don't even know how piracy works, do you? One person cracks the game and uploads it for everyone else to grab. DRM does not turn a single pirate into a purchaser.
I have pirated a lot of games in my time. I do know how it works. However, the only recent game I have pirated *I define recent as the last few years since I am only 16* was to try out and see if I like it. If I play for an hour or so and I like the game I buy it. Otherwise I uninstall it. I used the Fallout 3 example. I pirated the game, liked it so much that I finished it, and then proceeded to go to Microcenter and bought the Special Edition for $75 complete with Pip-Boy Bobblehead and lunch box.

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Originally Posted by Liability
They go after whoever they can scare into settling out of court with and whatever sites they can overwhelm. Ever see some of the docs that were leaked? In one instance, they pretty much said they didn't have a case against the people they were going after, but they would overwhelm them with so much legal fees it would force them to shutdown.
I have not. Link me a reliable source.

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Using the RIAA's logic, gunshops should be held liable for people who buy guns and commit crimes, and car companies should be liable if someone gets into an accident. Torrent sites host nothing illegal.
I never said that I believed Torrent sites were illegal. Although I believe that it is unethical, from a legal standpoint they do nothing wrong which is why they almost always win the legal battles and why the RIAA goes after individual users since they are the ones who can be legally be held accountable.

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Originally Posted by Liability
Everything has a value. Often times it is FAR below the price they want you to pay for it. The old "1 hit song + 14 crappy rushjobs" concept has been going on for a damn long time.
Alright then. Buy songs off itunes. Buy singles CD's. But if you do not feel that the product is worth the price then do not buy it. You are not entitled to steal something if you believe it is priced too high.

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Originally Posted by Liability
Shocking, isn't it? Produce crappy material, and your sales will slump!
Ok. That is true but that is unrelated. The sales slump because of piracy, and the material is clearly not bad since so many people pirate it. Especially since the most pirated songs tend to be the most popular ones since people do not pirated songs they believe are bad and purchase ones they believe are good as if they were bad there would be no need to pirate them and they could simply purchase all the songs they wanted legally.

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Originally Posted by Liability
Yes, they do get money. But it is pennies on the dollar. It is a negligible amount. The fatcats pocket the bulk of it. That's wrong.
They do get a percentage, and a case could be made that they do not get enough. But that has nothing to do with your justification of stealing. Also, does that mean that it is a good idea for them to get even less money? The "fatcats", as you put it, are not the only ones hurt when people do not buy CD's.

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Originally Posted by Liability
Quite true. Independent game developers can get hit very hard by this. I do not support game piracy in the least. But the RIAA and the MPAA? They can go rot. They are a disgrace to this country.
So we can steal music and movies but not games? Why? Because video game developers experience less piracy and do not sue as much?

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Originally Posted by Liability
And regarding your previous comment about the RIAA not wanting to look bad, or inflict pain, glance over some of these articles. Gives you some insight into the mind of these crooked people.

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The RIAA suing an autobody shop, over a worker playing a radio that customers could hear. They sued them for £200,000. The judge refused to throw out the case. Funny thing is, radio stations already pay royalties to them to broadcast the songs in the first place! This is greed at its finest. Radio is FREE.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1909311/posts
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The action against the Kwik-Fit Group has been brought by the Performing Rights Society which collects royalties for songwriters and performers.
That was in Scotland???
Did you even read the article? That was not the RIAA
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How does that make sense - How can you make a copy of something you don't have? It was made available by the original owners and I don't hear of people getting arrested for copying audio CDs to their computer or MP3 player.
You know what he means lol.
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What the hell? This is disgusting.
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How does that make sense - How can you make a copy of something you don't have? It was made available by the original owners and I don't hear of people getting arrested for copying audio CDs to their computer or MP3 player.
The original CD was copied, then sent as a additional copy (illegal) to a third-party. Taa daa!
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