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Nvidia and ATI both have driver problems, but they're rarely serious for me to piss and moan about much. I have a love/hate relationship with ATI's monthly scheduled drivers. On the one hand, we get regular updates. On the other hand, we can get rushed driver releases for no other reason than it being that time of the month. So instead of getting an extra week to iron out any problems, the drivers are just rushed to the market. I'm also not a fan of how ATI's drivers are tied to the .NET framework. That doesn't mean Nvidia is free and clear though - it seems like 70% of their drivers are never WHQL certified, and the hodge-podge method of their release means some issues take forever to get patched.
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I don't know why everyone *****es about ati drivers, i bet most of them are the same people who ***** or did ***** about vista crashing or having instabilities when something like 30% (the most by far) were caused by nvidia drivers

I've only ever had two issues with ati drivers, once when setting up my current system, i had a lot of blue screens because of a few wrong settings on my part, and with the latest drivers causing the display driver to stop responding mid game in call of duty 4 from time to time and having to reset itself, and only in that game and this time i just installed over old drivers (including the beta ones and 2 previous catalyst installs) so it could be my fault too

Honestly i find them pretty solid compared to the way people (usually people not running an ati card) carry on about them
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Originally Posted by Gr3m1in View Post
I don't know why everyone *****es about ati drivers, i bet most of them are the same people who ***** or did ***** about vista crashing or having instabilities when something like 30% (the most by far) were caused by nvidia drivers

I've only ever had two issues with ati drivers, once when setting up my current system, i had a lot of blue screens because of a few wrong settings on my part, and with the latest drivers causing the display driver to stop responding mid game in call of duty 4 from time to time and having to reset itself, and only in that game and this time i just installed over old drivers (including the beta ones and 2 previous catalyst installs) so it could be my fault too

Honestly i find them pretty solid compared to the way people (usually people not running an ati card) carry on about them
Maybe not on your 3200 IGP, but I see a lot of 4870X2 users complain about driver problems of various sorts.

What a terrible waste of chip space if ATI has no plans of using Sideport in the first place. Those could have been used for extra SP units or something.
Edited by arkheii - 12/24/08 at 7:49am
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post #44 of 59
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Maybe not on your 3200 IGP, but I see a lot of 4870X2 users complain about driver problems of various sorts.

What a terrible waste of PCB space if ATI has no plans of using Sideport in the first place. Those could have been used for extra SP units or something.
Dual-GPU drivers are generally pretty dodgy in both camps.
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Rayvin, ever since '08 there's no major .NET problems.

Ever since Catalyst 8.11 CCC is insanely fast, perhaps even faster than a native "unmanaged" app.


So there, the 2 major issues gone.
    
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What a terrible waste of PCB space if ATI has no plans of using Sideport in the first place. Those could have been used for extra SP units or something.
PCB and the chip itself are two different things. It's not like you can stick more SPs on unused PCB space, if you want more SPs you have to alter the chip design itself. And the chip size itself has no effect on the PCB space used, because the size of the IHS or the piece of board the chip is actually attached to (forgot the name...damn me) won't change unless there are major changes to the way the chip communicates with other machinery (widened memory bus for example).
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ATI has an easy to understand driver release schedule. The name of the driver cooresponds to the month it was released. They are always released in the early middle part of every month...

Now lately they started throwing out "hotfixes" which is a pain.

But I like ATI's releases better than Nvidia's.

That doesn't mean ATI has better drivers than Nvidia... I honestly don't know. This is my first ATI card and I have had fewer driver issues than I had with Nvidia cards.
Interesting... maybe later in the HD58*0 series I may pick one up to see how it does. Then again there's an inner urge not to as I have never had an error or blue screen that originated from nVidia's drivers in the 10 years that I've been using nVidia, and naturally one would have a tendency not to want to change that. I'll have to overcome that sometime to see if I feel the same way with ATI.
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Interesting... maybe later in the HD58*0 series I may pick one up to see how it does. Then again there's an inner urge not to as I have never had an error or blue screen that originated from nVidia's drivers in the 10 years that I've been using nVidia, and naturally one would have a tendency not to want to change that. I'll have to overcome that sometime to see if I feel the same way with ATI.
I just purchased a laptop and I ultimately went with ATI as well. This had more to do with the ATI option being cheaper, offering hybrid graphics (on the fly switching with Intel 4500HD, and all the problems with faulty Nvidia laptop chips lately than with drivers. However, I am somewhat concerned about the current lack of ISV certified CATIA drivers for the ATI FireGL V5700, which is the card in my laptop. If the performance isn't there I will return the laptop and go with the Quadro FX770 that Dell stocks in their laptops.
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Does anyone with a 4870X2 care about power consumption? I mean 4870X2 is for no average games.
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