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I am getting ready to start my new build soon. I am wondering what would be the BEST loop(s) possible in my build. I will be using a Lian Li PC-S80 case in this build. I have been modding it for a while now. I am hoping to get this case on the front cover of PSU magazine. Anyways I need some input on my loop process. I will be using on the top of the case a BlackIce GTS360 and in the front of the case standing upright a BlackIce GTX240. And I can add a third radiator a GTX120 to the back of the case if I have too.
Will a BI GTX240 be enough to cool or will it produce allot of heat on the i7-920 1.35v on a Swiftech GTZ? Reason why I ask this will be my intake fans on the GTX240 with a push/pull 78CFM blowing into the rest of my case from the front. If it does produce allot of heat I was thinking of going to the last configuration at the bottom. I am thinking I need to push the heat loads out of my case as much as I can specially from the eK 4870-X2 block. What do you think?

Loop #1 BI 240GTX - Swiftech GTZ - 355/XSPC Acrylic Reservoir (Note heat from i7-920 will be push back into case)
Loop #2 BI 360GTS - eK4870 X2 - 355/XSPC Acrylic Reservoir (4870X2 heat will be push out of top of case)


Or ---> BI 240GTX - Swiftech GTZ - BI 120GTX - eK4870 X2 -355/XSPC Acrylic Top - BI 360GTS - 355/XSPC Acrylic Reservoir

(This last one will blow all of HEAT LOADS out of the case with this last configuration)
You'll only have a 2 or 3C hotter air coming off your rad in the front, have some good exhaust fans going and you'll be fine. I like to keep more air leaving the case then coming in, that gives a negative air pressure. If you have more coming in then leaving its a positive air pressure, you wont have as much dust in your case but it can cause hot spots of stagnant air.

So, I'd have the 240 in front pulling in rather then on the floor pushing out. If you have one on the bottom pushing case air out you will have a little higher temp's, you want the cooler room ambient air going through your rad if at all possible.

The 240 GTX should be fine with those 78cfm fans for just a CPU, NP. If you can fit them and it wouldn't hurt your theme or whatever I'd use some decent cfm Pana, I never would go smaller then these on a rad..86cfm Pana .These are what I use..Pana 115

A shroud will always help to, old gutted 120x38mm case fans are the easiest to make and use. If its a question of room I think I would use those 78cfm with shrouds rather then the 120x38mm Pana without shrouds, maybe.....Even 120x25mm gutted fans as shrouds are a lot better then no shroud.

The GPU loop will produce a lot of heat, for it I'd do what you were thinking about with it on the top pulling out of the case. A C or two isn't going to matter with a GPU like it will with a CPU. A CPU is a lot less tolerent of heat for OC'ing.

Why the 360 GTS rad? Is it since its thin? The GTS is a fairly restrictive rad both for water flow and air flow, it has 30 fins per inch. So its going to need good fans on it and be prepared to sdust it out more often then a more normal FPI rad. Since you will be pulling the case air through it that will knock a lot of the dust problem off right there..

Its a good heat disapating rad other then that, the fin struture on it and the GTX is pretty unique, they make a lot more contact with the rad tubes the way they are soldered on, pretty trick really...GTS Review

But I would do two loops for sure, at least if your wanting it to perform as optimally as possible.

I don't remember if I ever gave you my cleaning and set-up PDF, so here it is......Its just basic set-up and cleaning, just how I do it, my coolant recipe is in it to.

Link us to your build log if you do one I'd like to see it...
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You'll only have a 2 or 3C hotter air coming off your rad in the front, have some good exhaust fans going and you'll be fine. I like to keep more air leaving the case then coming in, that gives a negative air pressure. If you have more coming in then leaving its a positive air pressure, you wont have as much dust in your case but it can cause hot spots of stagnant air.

So, I'd have the 240 in front pulling in rather then on the floor pushing out. If you have one on the bottom pushing case air out you will have a little higher temp's, you want the cooler room ambient air going through your rad if at all possible.

The 240 GTX should be fine with those 78cfm fans for just a CPU, NP. If you can fit them and it wouldn't hurt your theme or whatever I'd use some decent cfm Pana, I never would go smaller then these on a rad..86cfm Pana .These are what I use..Pana 115

A shroud will always help to, old gutted 120x38mm case fans are the easiest to make and use. If its a question of room I think I would use those 78cfm with shrouds rather then the 120x38mm Pana without shrouds, maybe.....Even 120x25mm gutted fans as shrouds are a lot better then no shroud.

The GPU loop will produce a lot of heat, for it I'd do what you were thinking about with it on the top pulling out of the case. A C or two isn't going to matter with a GPU like it will with a CPU. A CPU is a lot less tolerent of heat for OC'ing.

Why the 360 GTS rad? Is it since its thin? The GTS is a fairly restrictive rad both for water flow and air flow, it has 30 fins per inch. So its going to need good fans on it and be prepared to sdust it out more often then a more normal FPI rad. Since you will be pulling the case air through it that will knock a lot of the dust problem off right there..

Its a good heat disapating rad other then that, the fin struture on it and the GTX is pretty unique, they make a lot more contact with the rad tubes the way they are soldered on, pretty trick really...GTS Review

But I would do two loops for sure, at least if your wanting it to perform as optimally as possible.

I don't remember if I ever gave you my cleaning and set-up PDF, so here it is......Its just basic set-up and cleaning, just how I do it, my coolant recipe is in it to.

Link us to your build log if you do one I'd like to see it...
What if he had the radiator on the bottom as an air intake?
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What if he had the radiator on the bottom as an air intake?
That would work to, they tend to get clogged up with crud pretty fast if they are sitting on the floor. I've seen several guys make some taller "feet" for them to get them up off the floor further. And to me if your not up farther from the floor it would seem to restrict air flow through the rad, since its just inch or so from the floor, I don't know if it would really hurt it much if any, but it looks like it would.
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That would work to, they tend to get clogged up with crud pretty fast if they are sitting on the floor. I've seen several guys make some taller "feet" for them to get them up off the floor further. And to me if your not up farther from the floor it would seem to restrict air flow through the rad, since its just inch or so from the floor, I don't know if it would really hurt it much if any, but it looks like it would.
he could get some filters and some higher case feet or even some caster wheels
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he could get some filters and some higher case feet or even some caster wheels

Oh Yeah he could get it up in the air if he really wants to.
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I wonder if the OP has any pets. I would think the lint/dust/gunk in the radiator fins would be much more of an issue if he has dogs, cats, etc.
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Well I do have one cat and thankfully he really does not shed that much. But my case will be up high on top of my desk (not in the floor). I am wondering which would be better a BI GTS360 or a Swiftech 360? I am limited to a small space on top where the rad will be. I original bought a BI GTX360 for the top but not enough room.

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That Black Ice GTS360 is sexy!
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If its just for the GPU either one should be fine. The Swifty would be less restrictive, but since it will be a GPU only loop with a good pump the GTS would be fine, its thinner to
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You like the swity over the BI ira? I thought the BI was the way to go with strong fans...see shows ya how noob I am about rads lol
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