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Hello i am new to Overclock.net and new to OCing at that. i am running a very old PC right now and looking to build my very own PC for the first time i am on a low budget and would like to stay under 800 bucks even cheaper. i really only play world of warcraft, net serfing, watch movies, just stuff like that no other games really as that a i have an xbox 360 and like to game on there. I know i will be able to piece it together just fine its more about what pieces do i want. here is what i have so far i have picked a few things i like and need to cut it down, i still need a CPU and a cooler, other than that i have one or more of eveything could u take the time to tell me whats best or if i missed fully and picked wrong thanks for your time here. don't forget to pick me out a CPU.

here is a link if your a user on newegg- Bens pc


If your not a user i will link it up.

PSU-CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI

MOBO-BIOSTAR TPower I45 LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX Intel Motherboard
or
GIGABYTE GA-EP45-UD3P LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX Intel Motherboard

GPU-XFX PVT84JYAJG GeForce 8600 GT 512MB 128-bit GDDR2 PCI Express x16 SLI
on that i saw there is GPU's with pci express x16 and other ones with something about 2.0. what does that mean? do i need that?

RAM-CORSAIR DOMINATOR 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory

CD/DVD BURNER-ASUS 20X DVD±R DVD Burner with LightScribe Black SATA Model DRW-2014L1T
or
SAMSUNG 22X DVD±R DVD Burner with LightScribe Black SATA Model SH-S223Q - OEM

HD-Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD6400AAKS 640GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM

CASE-COOLER MASTER RC-690-KKN1-GP Black SECC/ ABS ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
or
COOLER MASTER Centurion 590 RC-590-KKN1-GP Black SECC / ABS ATX Mid Tower Computer Case

If you wouldn't mind letting me know why you picked what you pick i would really appreciate it alot. like i said really trying to stay cheap.Also what OS should i use windows xp or vista i have never used vista and what is the difference from 32 bit to 64 bit.
Edited by smithben1983 - 12/24/08 at 2:53am
    
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I would go for the 8800GT of XFX, in my experience there is a huge difference between the 8600 and 8800. The rest look quite good and if you don't want to spend alot of money then XP will do fine, vista is still a moneymonster!
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i just kinda found the xfx, it is cheap on newegg i have i don't really understand the difference in all the different type of cards. i kinda under stand the memory thing.. more is better. right?
    
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i just kinda found the xfx, it is cheap on newegg i have i don't really understand the difference in all the different type of cards. i kinda under stand the memory thing.. more is better. right?
id drop that corsair 750 to the 650w version to save money, or even drop it to the 520w version

that will leave you room to upgrade the 8600gt to a 9800gt or even an hd4830

. i swear, youd really regret buying a 750w overkill power supply and matching it up with a really really crappy video card (8600gt), .

id rather much grab a corsair 520w and grab a 9600gso/8800gs/9600gt/9800gt/hd4830/hd4850.

more memory means absolutely NOTHING

an 8600gt wit 1gb of video memory will ALWAYS, alwayyyyyyys be worst than an 8800gs with only 384v memory.

get http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139004 instead

and pick up

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814150320 instead of the 8600gt
Edited by askareem24 - 12/24/08 at 2:56am
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yea of course more is better x)

what is your budget? A E5200 would fit nicely in your build.
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its 800 but i would like to do it for less really alot less i just want world of warcraft max settings.
    
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Hi and welcome to OCN!

That setup looks good to me. Both MOBO's look good and performs well. But what are your plans for the future? CrossFire maybe? Those are P45 boards and why not just go for an ATI-card right away? These mobo's wont SLI so since its a new build i would go ATI from the start.
This might be a good alternative:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814121272
You say its a gaming-build so videocard shouldnt be skimped on.

Both cases look good and if youre budget is tight just gun for the Centurion. Its got loads of optional fan-placements and you save $20.

The Corsair 750TX is a very good PSU so i would go for that but in a single GPU setup the 550VX is more than sufficient. Atleast on a single GPU-card. Link:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139004

The 450VX is also good but the 550VX gives you a bit more headroom and you dont have to worry about power-shortage for a while.

The Dominators are good RAM but fairly expensive given their performance so these might be a good option:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231174
Those will OC to 1066 fairly easy so they're not really a downgrade from the Dominators.

The drives look good but id gun for the Samsung. But thats only because i have it myself.
HDD also looks good to me.

Now for the CPU part its up to you whether you really want a Quad or not. I run a E8500 and very happy with that: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115036

To save a few bucks on the Duo you could get the E8400 instead. They will also reach 4gHz stable 24/7 but they wont meet the E8500/E8600 in OCing.

A Duo will hold its own for a while in the future but we all experience that Quads will take over more as the time goes. Games will also be even more demanding and will be able to utilize quads better.

Maybe this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115042

The Quads are still kinda expensive but if i were you id ignore the Q6600 since its gettin kinda outdated and its a 65nm. They need loads of power OCing.

As a CPU-cooler this is very popular here and they perform well:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...ltra%20extreme
Slap a 120mm fan on it and you got yourself a winner.

Both OCZ Vendetta 2 and the Xigmatek S1283 are good options.

Now i havent kept track on the costs of my suggestions, thats your job.
Edited by kimosabi - 12/24/08 at 2:58am
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800 before or after MIRs?
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yea of course more is better x)

what is your budget? A E5200 would fit nicely in your build.
wow thats cheap would it be fast enough u think?
    
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800 before or after MIRs?
after should be fine aslong as its not crazy
    
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