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Instead of banning cell phones and punishing those who choose to disregard the warning signs, the management of a British school decided to start and fund a nine-month long program in which the cell phones were used to further the educational process. Taking advantage of the large array of accessories that modern phones have, the scientists in charge of the experiment closely monitored the behavior of the children who were enrolled.

They noticed that, by using cell phones, there was an increase in the number of children who accessed on-line teaching resources remotely, as well as in the number of those who used their mobile devices for such tasks as measuring time and calculating mathematical problems. This was all made possible by the fact that almost all new phones are equipped with calendar, calculator, stop watch, video camera, Internet and Bluetooth connections, as well as with MP3 support.
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Couldn't agree more.

Kids are dumb these days. Teaching may have been less fun in the past, but we certainly got more smarter and harder working individuals because of it.

Now we have a bunch of idiots that cannot spell, use grammar or do simple math properly.
That's nothing to do with the way we educate our kids. In fact hardly anything has changed from that stance.

Back in the good ol' days a teacher used to be able to smack a kid when he miss behaved, and rightly so. Now you can't even tell the kid off without being accused of being a molester.

The trouble today is that teachers can't control the students, it has nothing to do with the students ability to learn.
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That's nothing to do with the way we educate our kids. In fact hardly anything has changed from that stance.

Back in the good ol' days a teacher used to be able to smack a kid when he miss behaved, and rightly so. Now you can't even tell the kid off without being accused of being a molester.

The trouble today is that teachers can't control the students, it has nothing to do with the students ability to learn.
Yes, another thing I have to agree with IcedEarth.

I guess I wasn't saying that all kids are stupid and unable to learn. I think most kids are able to be well educated, its just that a lot of them can't because of unruly classes, dumbing down of the curriculum and teachers who are afraid to punish.
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Thats complete rubbish. Its not because teachers can't control the kids, its because it is so damn boring they dont want to learn. Thats the way it was at school.

My class got mainly A's B's and a few A*'s at GCSE which was a good 6-7 years ago. The people in my class werent exactally the cleverest of the bunch at all but they did well because they wanted to learn.

My maths is absolutly terrible, give me 2 large numbers to add together and I cant do it without counting on my fingers etc. Yet I still got a B at GCSE. I found maths hard but the way it was tought to us made me want to learn.

We were taugh using computer programs that helped us learn, a bit like the DS brain training and all those other learning games.
And as phones are becoming more sophisticated at a lower price more people can afford them so people do not need to be able to do complex arithmatic in their heads. Isn't that what the calculator was invented for?

So I think this is a brilliant idea, the only thing that needs to be done is to be able to control the phone. If you have programs like Brain Training on phones in the future then thats brilliant however it is not so good for a schoole without control of the phone.

If the school can disable the students ability to send texts from the phone while in a lesson and to restrict the phone to do only what the lesson requires then it would certainly improve teaching.
If not you will just get students who want to learn anyway doing it right, and then you will have all the dropouts playing games and texting their mates which will give the opposite effect of what is being aimed.

The idea of this is to get everyone learning and using computers and software is a more fun way to learn and everyone wants to do it even when they don't think they are.
    
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Now you can't even tell the kid off without being accused of being a molester.
If that accusation is made of a teacher, whether the pupil is known to be a liar or not, the teacher is automatically suspended until an investigation is made...

I mean, WTH.
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Thats complete rubbish. Its not because teachers can't control the kids, its because it is so damn boring they dont want to learn. Thats the way it was at school.

My class got mainly A's B's and a few A*'s at GCSE which was a good 6-7 years ago. The people in my class werent exactally the cleverest of the bunch at all but they did well because they wanted to learn.

My maths is absolutly terrible, give me 2 large numbers to add together and I cant do it without counting on my fingers etc. Yet I still got a B at GCSE. I found maths hard but the way it was tought to us made me want to learn.

We were taugh using computer programs that helped us learn, a bit like the DS brain training and all those other learning games.
And as phones are becoming more sophisticated at a lower price more people can afford them so people do not need to be able to do complex arithmatic in their heads. Isn't that what the calculator was invented for?

So I think this is a brilliant idea, the only thing that needs to be done is to be able to control the phone. If you have programs like Brain Training on phones in the future then thats brilliant however it is not so good for a schoole without control of the phone.

If the school can disable the students ability to send texts from the phone while in a lesson and to restrict the phone to do only what the lesson requires then it would certainly improve teaching.
If not you will just get students who want to learn anyway doing it right, and then you will have all the dropouts playing games and texting their mates which will give the opposite effect of what is being aimed.

The idea of this is to get everyone learning and using computers and software is a more fun way to learn and everyone wants to do it even when they don't think they are.
The only reason kids like the "fun" learning is because its EASIER. Of course kids wants the easy life.

But you don't get anywhere in life by doing things the easy way.
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teachers who are afraid to punish.
That's not what I was getting at. Teachers aren't afraid to punish,they just aren't allowed.

All teachers can do is either tell you to behave or send you out, what good does that do? I abused that system many times by pissing around just to get thrown out of a lesson. Kids aren't scared by this system so there is no discipline.

If I knew I was going to get a cane wrapped around my purdy little cheeks the next time I threw an apple core at my mate, you can bet your bottom dollar I would put that apple core in the bin rather than my mates face. I wouldn't want a cane around my ass. Education nowadays is way too slack, kids don't bother trying because they aren't forced into trying.

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If that accusation is made of a teacher, whether the pupil is known to be a liar or not, the teacher is automatically suspended until an investigation is made...

I mean, WTH.
Precisely, it's bullcrap. No wonder schools can't get teachers nowadays, who the hell would want to work in that kind of environment.

............

Also, just because they use technology instead of ink or chalk it doesn't mean the process is easier. It is just another way of getting kids to digest and absorb the information, which makes it easier for the kids to pay attention and easier for them to remember the information. By no means would that make a sum any easier to tackle.
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Thats complete rubbish. Its not because teachers can't control the kids, its because it is so damn boring they dont want to learn. Thats the way it was at school.

My class got mainly A's B's and a few A*'s at GCSE which was a good 6-7 years ago. The people in my class werent exactally the cleverest of the bunch at all but they did well because they wanted to learn.

My maths is absolutly terrible, give me 2 large numbers to add together and I cant do it without counting on my fingers etc. Yet I still got a B at GCSE. I found maths hard but the way it was tought to us made me want to learn.

We were taugh using computer programs that helped us learn, a bit like the DS brain training and all those other learning games.
And as phones are becoming more sophisticated at a lower price more people can afford them so people do not need to be able to do complex arithmatic in their heads. Isn't that what the calculator was invented for?

So I think this is a brilliant idea, the only thing that needs to be done is to be able to control the phone. If you have programs like Brain Training on phones in the future then thats brilliant however it is not so good for a schoole without control of the phone.

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If not you will just get students who want to learn anyway doing it right, and then you will have all the dropouts playing games and texting their mates which will give the opposite effect of what is being aimed.

The idea of this is to get everyone learning and using computers and software is a more fun way to learn and everyone wants to do it even when they don't think they are.
u been at a school recently? as a manager i was looking for shift cover the other week. phoned one of my staff forgetting he would be at school. yet he still answered the phone during class. and the teacher did nothing about it. i had a full blown conversation with him. and u say it's nothing to do with teachers not being able to control kids. thats exactly the problem. i manage school kids in the my work everyday and from what i keep on hearing kids pretty much rule the classroom. they can tell a teacher to f*** off and not much gets done about it. kids will never want to learn. there kids. they would rather be outside playing football (or what it is girls do) or at home playing thier consoles. i never wasnted to learn at school but things much more strict back then. u didin't want a teacher screaming at u from 2inches away. there is nothing to scare kids any more. its the same with adults at work. if the boss lets lots of things slide then peope will slack. get paid for less work. if the boss is firm and doesn't let a single thing pass without it being stamped down on then the workers will have fear of losing thier job for slacking and will work hard.
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I for one, blame the parents.

The parents are easy on their children because they were treated harshly as kids, and can't do the same thing to their kids. It's a cycle guys.

Now on topic, I think this is a great idea. It's moving forward in an attempt to make kids want to learn. The system is breaking, something has to change.
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Well said, Cuthy.

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something has to change.
Yes, they should begin enforcing their rules.
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