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The system is breaking, something has to change.
The system is breaking because of the erosion of educational standards, to which this latest revelation will only add to.
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Well said, Cuthy.


Yes, they should begin enforcing their rules.
thanks. im not disagreeing with the idea of using something that kids find fun to help them learn. that i think is a good idea. i've always learnt things better sitting a computer. rather than pen and paper, with a text book. but whats the point in bringing something like phones in if their isnt control over pupils in the first place. this will just lead to an excuse to text or even play games during class.
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Just because something is more fun doesnt mean its easier.

If when I was at school I had a choice of doing paper based questions (no calculator) where I had to solve equasions, do sums or logic puzzles OR to do these SAME sums on a computer in a graphical format with animations, sound etc.
I would take the latter:
1) Because its more interesting
2) Becuase your brain remembers things such as animations, colours, pictures, sounds etc better than writting on a page
3) Because its FUN

Again I state my point.

Which is selling better?
Maths books (letts) selling at £2.50 each
or
Nintendo DS Brain Training at £30-£40 each

Have a guess. Well done, its the Brain Training game because its more fun than doing BORING sums on paper
    
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Just because something is more fun doesnt mean its easier.

If when I was at school I had a choice of doing paper based questions (no calculator) where I had to solve equasions, do sums or logic puzzles OR to do these SAME sums on a computer in a graphical format with animations, sound etc.
I would take the latter:
1) Because its more interesting
2) Becuase your brain remembers things such as animations, colours, pictures, sounds etc better than writting on a page
3) Because its FUN

Again I state my point.

Which is selling better?
Maths books (letts) selling at £2.50 each
or
Nintendo DS Brain Training at £30-£40 each

Have a guess. Well done, its the Brain Training game because its more fun than doing BORING sums on paper
Brain Training has nothing to do with learning the important foundation of Mathematics.

How on earth are we expected to educate future Engineers and Scientists by giving them a goddam toy to learn with?
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No but the principle is the same.
    
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Couldn't agree more.

Kids are dumb these days. Teaching may have been less fun in the past, but we certainly got more smarter and harder working individuals because of it.

Now we have a bunch of idiots that cannot spell, use grammar or do simple math properly.
Dumb kids today = more job security for me in 30 years
 
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What!? That's exactly the point, you spoon. It's easier for kids to learn if they are having fun at the same time. You just mooted your own point. Why the hell do you think the DS Brain Game was so popular. People actually enjoyed testing their knowledge whilst having fun. More things like this should come into play with education.
Testing knowledge is not teaching a child to learn. The more gizmos you throw into a classroom, the lower their attention span will become. School is not meant to be "fun" all the time. I am well aware that computers do have a place in school, but they should not be a crutch to lean on whenever the student is too lazy or bored to learn on his own.
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I guess the problem isn't that they learn from games or cellphones or music or whatever. The problem is that they wouldn't learn without any of those media, which is either the teacher's fault for making an extremely boring class or our fault for screwing over all of our kids. Media and education should be separated IMO. One thing you do for recreation while the other is to learn.
    
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I don't see any reason to include excessive amounts of media and gadgets in the classroom.

Throughout history we managed to educate youngsters with conventional, non-gadget means.
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Couldn't agree more.

Kids are dumb these days. Teaching may have been less fun in the past, but we certainly got more smarter and harder working individuals because of it.

Now we have a bunch of idiots that cannot spell, use grammar or do simple math properly.
That's interesting.. All my high school teachers attempt to make class fun or interesting in their own little ways. Occasionally we'll be able to use our phone's to look stuff up, it helps more than it hurts. Being an average idiot, who doesn't really do homework and the etc I'm running a 75% average just off class being interesting and worth me paying attention to.

I can obviously spell, utilize grammar correctly, and I have no real way of proving the math, but I assure you I can do it.

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I guess the problem isn't that they learn from games or cellphones or music or whatever. The problem is that they wouldn't learn without any of those media, which is either the teacher's fault for making an extremely boring class or our fault for screwing over all of our kids. Media and education should be separated IMO. One thing you do for recreation while the other is to learn.
FFT: News is media, do you learn from the news?

Difference between learning something from a newspaper or a news TV show and looking it up in class instantly please?
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