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Ummm, you shouldn't have to be "looking" stuff up in school. Why would you need to go to Wikipedia in the middle of class?
Either open your damn textbook or ask the teacher.

If kids need to look stuff up in class, someone screwed up in the teaching and or learning process.

Anyways yeah, most kids are dumb and or unmotivated and it has a lot to do with parenting.

I was shocked to find the average grade of my Freshman college chemistry class midterms was a 13/20 or a 65%. I just thought "are these people really that stupid?"
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Now we have a bunch of idiots that cannot spell, use grammar or do simple math properly.
I find this statement rather amusing. Please insert an addition comma following grammar and before or in order to have appropriate grammar.

additional, damn I am one of the stupid kids!
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Ummm, you shouldn't have to be "looking" stuff up in school. Why would you need to go to Wikipedia in the middle of class?
Either open your damn textbook or ask the teacher.

If kids need to look stuff up in class, someone screwed up in the teaching and or learning process.

Anyways yeah, most kids are dumb and or unmotivated and it has a lot to do with parenting.

I was shocked to find the average grade of my Freshman college chemistry class midterms was a 13/20 or a 65%. I just thought "are these people really that stupid?"
No teacher is able to tell you everything. It's just not possible. It's like asking someone here to detail you every single thing about a certain component, no one knows it ALL.

I often like to find out MORE about what we're learning, and in case that the text books are outdated, newer material can be accessed. You're living in a time where teachers aren't expected to know as much as they used to because it IS so much easier to access it on the 'net.

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additional, damn I am one of the stupid kids!
Edit button, stupid kid.
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http://www2.smarttech.com/st/en-US/P.../SMART+Boards/

These are my high school's new chalk boards.


Then again we haven't used chalk boards in forever, thank god. We had marker boards before we got the smart boards. I hate chalk, it would always feel all dusty in the classroom and I'd feel so relieved once I got out of class because I could get some fresh air.

But even I think this is stupid. Though I am a fan of letting the kids who have laptops use those, and distributing books as .PDF files. It would save so many trees, save the school so much money on books, save the teachers from yelling at the kids about books being covered, save the students from having to be fined when books are damaged.....etc.
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post #25 of 53
Adding cell phones to a group of kids who are learning well without them, that's a bonus.

Adding cell phones to a group of kids who didn't learn anything to begin with, you are asking for trouble.

Most of the world's kids, you know, those whom the British and American kids are struggling to compete with in the 21st century, don't necessarily have more than 10 computers in their schools. Its fine for them if they plan on majoring in English, but if they want to do anything technology related, this will only at best help creating "technologists", not engineers or scientists.

Bottom line is, making learning fun is good, but those practices tend to throw out the "learning" part in the process and we are only left with the "fun".
i.e. the only way of making calculus fun is to dumb it down, assuming those kids still get taught basic calculus these days?
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additional, damn I am one of the stupid kids!
I'm sure you meant, "Additionally"? Or is it only others' grammar you feel needs to be correct?

Oh, I could go on all day about this subject. My brother has been a high school math teacher for 25 years, and he shares his "fun" with me all the time. As I see it, here's a lot of the problem: we lower our standards so that everyone succeeds instead of holding kids accountable for their own success. Using media is a moronic way to give in to kids' interests. I don't care who thinks it helps kids learn faster, it doesn't. What it does do is let kids spend their time playing games and getting around the rules instead of doing what they know they're supposed to do. We no longer value intelligence or scholarship in popular society, because the examples that kids see are people that are getting famous selling drugs and then making songs about it; and these people have everything they've ever wanted. Why get an education when you can just do that? The sad thing is that these same kids wonder what happened when they get out of high school and don't have the grades or discipline to make it through college. Why is it that parents now feel that kids shouldn't ever be upset about anything? That's part of life, and if you don't teach your kids to deal with disappointment, they will never be able to adjust in the real world to challenges that everyone faces!

That being said, I do NOT condone smacking a kid, ever. It might be gratifying to the adult at the time, but it breeds resentment and teaches that violence is a suitable solution to frustration. I got smacked plenty in school, but if a teacher ever hit one of my kids, I would beat that teacher to death right in their classroom. Ok, not to death, but I think I made my point.

The answer is NOT to lower the standards so that everyone succeeds, it is to stop listening to kids whine about how tough everything is. You can't spell? Try studying. You can't do math? Get some help from someone who is better at it than you. You don't like the rules? Tough $**t, follow them anyway, they are rules for a reason. Above all, stop expecting your kids to learn everything with no input from you as a parent. You are the example they will base their lives on; recognize it and show them how to deal with life and all aspects of it. If your child falls down, let them pick themselves up; it is one of the hardest things to do as a parent, but it MUST be done.

I'm saying this as a single parent of a 19 year old college student. I raised her myself, and she's never been hit in her life. She got herself a scholarship because she worked for it. She didn't always like me growing up, but she knows all she needs to know to succeed in this world because I wasn't afraid to hurt her feelings and held her accountable, just like society will. Oh, and she's recently decided to go pre-med.

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Couldn't agree more.

Kids are dumb these days. Teaching may have been less fun in the past, but we certainly got more smarter and harder working individuals because of it.

Now we have a bunch of idiots that cannot spell, use grammar or do simple math properly.
exactly , they dont deserve to have fun....atleast not until they are in their last year of school
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Oh, I could go on all day about this subject. My brother has been a high school math teacher for 25 years, and he shares his "fun" with me all the time. As I see it, here's a lot of the problem: we lower our standards so that everyone succeeds instead of holding kids accountable for their own success. Using media is a moronic way to give in to kids' interests. I don't care who thinks it helps kids learn faster, it doesn't. What it does do is let kids spend their time playing games and getting around the rules instead of doing what they know they're supposed to do. We no longer value intelligence or scholarship in popular society, because the examples that kids see are people that are getting famous selling drugs and then making songs about it; and these people have everything they've ever wanted. Why get an education when you can just do that? The sad thing is that these same kids wonder what happened when they get out of high school and don't have the grades or discipline to make it through college. Why is it that parents now feel that kids shouldn't ever be upset about anything? That's part of life, and if you don't teach your kids to deal with disappointment, they will never be able to adjust in the real world to challenges that everyone faces!
/rant
I disagree.
Maybe they are trying to teach kids that although they COULD be using the cell phones to text friends in school, and goof off in class, they should not do that. It is further preparing them for college, since they will be on their own and have more freedom. In college if you don't want to pay attention in class, you don't. In college you are allowed to bring laptops in, and the friends that I know in college all say they play Counter-Strike 1.6 during lectures. Maybe the purpose of this is to give the children less rules early on, so that they don't flunk of out college because of the distractions of technology. They may start getting bad grades in high school, but it is better to get your reality check in high school rather than college. They need to learn to work with technology instead of goof of with it if they want a future in this world that gets more technologically advanced every second.

and by the way, please use the edit button. I hate people who double post.
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Kids are dumb these days. Teaching may have been less fun in the past, but we certainly got more smarter and harder working individuals because of it.

Edited by leakyfaucet - 12/24/08 at 11:47am
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