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That's nothing to do with the way we educate our kids. In fact hardly anything has changed from that stance.

Back in the good ol' days a teacher used to be able to smack a kid when he miss behaved, and rightly so. Now you can't even tell the kid off without being accused of being a molester.

The trouble today is that teachers can't control the students, it has nothing to do with the students ability to learn.
look at todays kids from earlyer ages. If a teacher hit a kid in places like the bronx and such they would do twice the damage back.

That's one of the reasons aside from child abuse
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post #32 of 53
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The only reason kids like the "fun" learning is because its EASIER. Of course kids wants the easy life.

But you don't get anywhere in life by doing things the easy way.

really? Because every single invention ever made, was made to make things HARDER?

Because cars were built, to INCREASE effort?

Because the computer that you're using, that has been evolving for many generations, was designed to make your life more difficult?

Increased ease of life = motivation.
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post #33 of 53
People take free education for granted, that's the whole thing. If they had to pay for it, people wouldn't be messing around in class like they do.
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post #34 of 53
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Ha ha ha. very funny. except the thing is that he had proper use of grammar.

Sure, at first glance, you see "more smarter" and automatically assume it is the pinnacle of irony. But take another look- only this time start AFTER where it says more-

Kids are dumb these days. Teaching may have been less fun in the past, but we certainly got more smarter and harder working individuals because of it.

The more is referring to the INDIVIDUALS, which are described as "smarter and harder working".

Soooo actually look at what you're attempting to satire, next time...

EDIT: just saw your second post. glad to see you noticed.
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I, just recently, escaped from the public school system in Georgia [USA], and I must say it was a nightmare.

Zooter is right: Rather than filtering out the dumb kids, schools have been forced into lowering their overall standards so that more people can meet them. I went through high school in accelerated classes, and also had my fair share of the "regular" classes. although the advanced classes tended to be more tame, both were unruly most of the time.

I have a cousin who teaches in high school somewhere in North Carolina. As we all know, there are 2 basic kinds of students: the ones who want to learn [aka "Smart kids"] and the ones who really dont. She was told, not by the principal at her school, but by the school board, that any student who was doing well should be put into a group of 3-4 students who weren't doing well, in an attempt to bring the other students up. While a good idea on paper, all it did was hold back the students who wanted to learn.

With that said, rather than trying to lower standards, we need to raise them and push kids to learn. A college degree has become the new high school diploma because getting a diploma from a high school isnt an accomplishment anymore, and that needs to change.

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post #36 of 53
I enjoy the fact that kids are dumber these days.

Not really dumber, but they just don't have as much of a desire to succeed as in the old days.

If they don't get a job they think welfare will do fine.

They see that as soon as they were born they're in the top 8% of humans in terms of wealth, and that makes them lazy to climb more.

It doesn't help that the schools are trying all these weird programs. They'll put you in teams and give you a project on making a sandwich, all in the name of learning algebra.

When the teachers know the kids didn't study enough for an exam they'll put it back.

But it's fine by me because I use the flaws in the system to my advantage. I could go on but I have to entertain some guests (it's Xmas eve!)
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smartboards were starting to work their way into my highschool just as i was graduating (class of 06) but they were projector based and the teachers found it harder to write out notes and equations as they were limited in space and in resolution. A good teacher shouldn't need powerpoint or java apps to teach kids.

I really think the ideal way to teach is using a 4-board black board wall and some smart examples and explanations.

PS: i'm not saying its the teachers fault, in highschool i had many teachers that were excellent

as for control of students, i had a slightly sheltered highschool experience having taken all IB classes where kids behaved reasonably, but my friends from other schools/classes would make teachers have public mental breakdowns mid-class. EX: stealing the projector cart with someone ontop of it, and having the teacher chase them down the hall, or drinking epicac before class and puking all over the teacher when asking a question. (PS: these friends all have at least 3.0 gpa's atm). But it just goes to show you what kids can get away with without being punished.

My sister who is teaching highschool for the first time this year has had many lewd comments and pick-up lines thrown at her. She teaches some students that should be finishing up their undergrad by now......

but there will always be the "smart kids" that make up for the dumb ones so overall i dont think future kids are screwed as far as education goes.
    
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its the school districts, can the teachers be the blame? sometimes....

but i wanna see the results of this before i even start bashing on the unknown.
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I enjoy the fact that kids are dumber these days.

Not really dumber, but they just don't have as much of a desire to succeed as in the old days.

If they don't get a job they think welfare will do fine.

They see that as soon as they were born they're in the top 8% of humans in terms of wealth, and that makes them lazy to climb more.

It doesn't help that the schools are trying all these weird programs. They'll put you in teams and give you a project on making a sandwich, all in the name of learning algebra.

When the teachers know the kids didn't study enough for an exam they'll put it back.

But it's fine by me because I use the flaws in the system to my advantage. I could go on but I have to entertain some guests (it's Xmas eve!)
this is the exact reason i dropped out and i'm going to community college then a 4 year...
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Extremely good plan. Why waste money on all these things when half the kids already have them in their pockets? It's progress.
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