Originally Posted by ChielScape
adaptations of 1 media to another never work.
book to movie? no thanks, i'll just stick with the book
movie to game? i'll stick with the movie
game to movie? ... guess what?
only game to book has ever been done right...
but i guess i overestimated your ability to derive my point from what i said.
Book to Movie =
No Country For Old Men
A Clockwork Orange
One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest
All of those I'm PRETTY SURE were better than the book accompanying them
That's quite possibly the stupidest thing I've ever seen on this forum....
Although, I do agree with your second two points, in all cases I would take the original work against the one it's adapted from. Perhaps the reason filmmakers have been so successful in their endeavors is because there have been more intelligent people making those crossovers? Not to mention it's much easier to translate a book into a script....
Originally Posted by TrAncE XD
Don't make fun of me for this but I found the Harry Potter movies to be quite entertaining.
So basically, your entire argument collapsed after I said that.
No, not really, you didn't cite relevant examples because any nincompoop can see how horrible all of the Harry Potter films were (with the large exception of Prisoner of Azkaban)
Besides, his point was that in general
, most book to film adaptations suck. I corrected that. On the contrary sir, your point collapses.
Originally Posted by stargate125645
The gaping holes in your logic were a little hard to look passed to decipher what you claim you meant to say. Besides, there are plenty of examples where there are successful movies based upon video games and video games based upon movies, which basically means even your alleged intended point is moot. Resident Evil and Star Wars, respectively, are two prime examples. Of course there will be fans of one medium that do not like the other, but if it makes enough money to push out sequel after sequel then I would call that successful.
Name some (other than the ones you just did), I've gone snooping around online to see if there were any I had seen/played, there were none that were better than the original work (other than the book to film adaptations, which was just a stupid comment by him)
The reason neither of the ones you just named are applicable is because, as said above, any half-wit can CLEARLY see that Resident Evil may not be a horrible film, BUT NO movie has EVER equaled the accolades that RE4 got.
I thought long and hard about the Star Wars adaptation, but because the only really great games that have ever come out based on Star Wars were both KOTORS (therefore entirely NOT based on the film they were accompanying, totally seperete characters, it just happens to take place in the same universe) I decided against it....
Originally Posted by Ruei
Being unclear in an argument doesn't mean the other person is stupid.
Adaptations between different kinds of media can go very well so long as careful attention is paid. You're making a sweeping generalization and haven't even taken into account the markets included in the statement as you're clearly trying to force it towards the tv --> game argument. Just because some adaptations are poor doesn't mean all are; simple logic. If you need an example, manga to anime is a huge industry built on the idea of adaptation and if it didn't work at least most of the time, it wouldn't be nearly as profitable.
Don't confuse personal opinion with fact so much.
Totally forgot that, but the Anime to Manga comparison is brilliant, not so much for the American comic book industry (that might change with Watchmen coming out soon). I don't think it's JUST necessarily careful attention though, I think it's just a mixture of that along with natural talent, which many directors that put out games are clearly lacking... Seriously, if you were Martin Scorsese would you really even think about doing a movie based on a game? HELL NO, and hence that's where the line is drawn.Edited by JCJP - 12/25/08 at 2:39am