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New GFX card time, and this may sound rather similar to other threads, until you look at some of the cards I am considering. Obviously i am posting because I am trying to convince myself buying a G92 now is a ridiculously bad idea. Anywho, the choice(s) are between:

4850 (w/ aftermarket HSF) obviously this is the ideal, expensive option - £115
9800GT - £115 (write off completely considering price, and the fact it is smoked by the 4850)
8800GT - don't exist in UK anymore and are also £100ish

8800GTS G92 possibly found a real gem here. Better than GT, hence 4830 also? - £90
4830 - £87
8800GTS G86 320mb - £59

Currently have 8600GT, hence performence doesn't really matter, i'm just weeding out best bang4buck. Will be running on a 650w dual rail or 520w triple rail PSU, with several PCI 6pin and 8pin so power isn't a problem.

Being a 4850 w/ minus 160 SPs, and lower clocks I am expecting 4830 to offer some good OC potential?
I am very warey of buying something as old as the GTS 320 (come on, that's like buying a HD2900 at this point in time...)
9800GT/8800GT have silly price compared to 4830/4850
And so we arrive at the 8800GTS G92... it is quite tempting. I am pretty damn certain this will sit between a 4830 and 4850 FPS wise... Is this actually the smartest choice? £5 more than a 4830, yet sits between it and a 4850 price wise.

I guess I am worried about buying a "last generation" card (i.e. G92 GTS) I mean who would buy a conroe or windsor now? G92 is still DX10, RV770 is DX10.1 but frankly there are little DX10 let alone 10.1 games available.

what are your thoughts?

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do not buy a g92 based card. It's old tech and is absolutely terrible with AA, I have even owned a voltmodded 8800GTS 512mb awhile ago and didn't like it at all.

Get a 4850, you won't regret it. Especially if you overclock it a bit. If you just can't afford the 4850 then get the 4830 and clock it....

4850>4830>8800GTS 512mb
    
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do not buy a g92 based card. It's old tech and is absolutely terrible with AA, I have even owned a voltmodded 8800GTS 512mb awhile ago and didn't like it at all.

Get a 4850, you won't regret it. Especially if you overclock it a bit. If you just can't afford the 4850 then get the 4830 and clock it....

4850>4830>8800GTS 512mb
The 8800GTS 512mb isn't that bad honestly. I would rather have a 4850 aswell though, but I think the 8800GTS>4830.
    
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G92 is... terrible with AA
LMAO, if you think G92 AA sucked, How would you describe the RV670s AA capabilities!!!!

As for performence, i don't need to be told a 4850>8800GTS>4830 thank you very much (I know your trying to help, since i've asked) I am after an opinion on whether a last gen card is a sensible investment.

You have a valid point about buying old tech, but with GT200 at silly prices, that makes G92b the "newest" architecture that is relavent to me. And whilst G92b > G92, there wern't that many differences? besides a 9600GSO (G92b) is merely a rebranded 8800GS (G92)

An RV770LE is quite tempting, especially as the only difference between that and the RV770pro is 640 vs 800 SPs (overclocking will more than make up for the slightly lower clocks of a 4830 over a 4850)


4830 is also tempting because of total cost. 4830 + cheaper PSU (cheaper in this sense means sufficient, good brand, dual +12 rail PSU) = £130

Whereas 4830 + modular, triple rail 520w = £145 (my wallet says "omg almost 150!")

But then an extra £5 for the 8800GTS G92 for a fair few FPS more... at the expensive of old (but not particular super-seeded) tech. Yelp!!!!
    
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Actually contrary to popular belief, G92 has terrible slowdowns with AA...especially when there was smoke involved.

I had a 8800GTS 512mb voltmodded to 900/2300 core/shader and in CoD4 anything over 2xAA was in my opinion unplayable. Anytime a smoke grenade or an airstrike was called in the FPS would plummet.

Whereas believe it or not, with the exact same settings on my voltmodded 3850 I experienced a lower average fps but the minimums were much higher and I would not get slowdowns with smoke. And my old 4850 absolutely destroys the 8800GTS....

Furthermore, if you put on even additional levels of AA, as in 8x, the RV670 is much better than the G92. This has always been overlooked!

My point is that the extra money for the 4850 is well spent.

However, yes, if you are not overclocking the 8800GTS is better than the 4830...but if you do plan to overclock then the 4830 will pull far ahead as it is really quite an overclocking beast.


Also you are asking whether it's a sensible investment... No, because when you plan to resell the GTS will be worth less than the 48xx series
Edited by gurusan - 12/25/08 at 1:48pm
    
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