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So, I've heard phase change is better than watercooling, but I have no idea how to do either.

So, couple of questions. Which is honestly better for CPU, Northbridge, and Graphics card? How expensive is it to get started? Is it difficult to install and maintain?

Any really good guides on how to install the system?

Sorry for the noob question, but with my other noob question, I got tons of very helpful answers on the other topic.
post #2 of 24
A normal phase system cools a single piece with a thing called the evaporator. In these systems normally the CPU's because this gives the greatest overall system gains.

I do not as of yet build systems for computers, but will be soon, so someone else will have to fill you in on prices; however it should be incredibly easy to setup and maintain, certainly easier then water cooling.
post #3 of 24
there is so much to say about either. though I doubt if you don't even know what either is that you would have a need for phase change just because its better. though I don't know
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A normal phase system cools a single piece with a thing called the evaporator. In these systems normally the CPU's because this gives the greatest overall system gains.

I do not as of yet build systems for computers, but will be soon, so someone else will have to fill you in on prices; however it should be incredibly easy to setup and maintain, certainly easier then water cooling.
i thought i saw a small box, roughly 1ft maybe foot and a half that sat on top of the case that could do phase cooling. Wasn't half bad priced.

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there is so much to say about either. though I doubt if you don't even know what either is that you would have a need for phase change just because its better. though I don't know
I know the difference between the two, I just didn't know which would be better. I do alot of multi tasking, and my system gets pretty warm. I would just like for it to be much cooler in my house when I run my system. I just fire up a bunch of programs and play some games at the same time, and I can turn off or at least turn down, my furnance.
post #5 of 24
Heat is energy, cooling is simply moving energy. All forms of cooling will warm up the room around you, no way around it. A watercooling system dumps all the heat out the radiator, while the phase unit will dump out all the heat from the condenser.
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Heat is energy, cooling is simply moving energy. All forms of cooling will warm up the room around you, no way around it. A watercooling system dumps all the heat out the radiator, while the phase unit will dump out all the heat from the condenser.
Touche! You're right. Just didn't think it would be as bad with water or phase cooling. Sorry, you were warned I was a noob to the cooling methods
post #7 of 24
i'd say water cooling. if you deal with phase change temps your going to have issues with condensation because your CPU and surrounding parts will get significantly below the ambient air's dew point. so if you go with water cooling you'll never get below even ambient temps. plus phase change is loud.

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ahh well so your not having issues keeping your computer cool your having issues keeping your room cool. i've heard of people funneling the heat through tubing to outside their window
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A good phase unit can run you $500-$1000 depending on who you get it from, $ 700 is a realistic expectation

I reccomend extreme-end watercooling over phase due to price, however phase is pretty good for what it is worth
    
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i'd say water cooling. if you deal with phase change temps your going to have issues with condensation because your CPU and surrounding parts will get significantly below the ambient air's dew point. so if you go with water cooling you'll never get below even ambient temps. plus phase change is loud.
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A good phase unit can run you $500-$1000 depending on who you get it from, $ 700 is a realistic expectation

I reccomend extreme-end watercooling over phase due to price, however phase is pretty good for what it is worth

Thanks for the help guys . I don't need anything louder, my machine is loud enough. Guess I'll head over to the water cooling topic and see what I can find.

Thanks again!
post #10 of 24
That's fairly untrue.
Phase can be quieter then water for sure, especially "high performance" water.
And you should if your on a tight budget, be able to get a rather nice unit for the $500 range, high performance is actually rather cheap with phase, it's extreme quiet or beauty that adds to the cost of things.
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