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[QUOTE=click here;5173546]i'd say water cooling. if you deal with phase change temps your going to have issues with condensation because your CPU and surrounding parts will get significantly below the ambient air's dew point. so if you go with water cooling you'll never get below even ambient temps.


#1 its called insulation. whenever you go below ambient its needed because condensation will happen.

#2 on water cooling never going below ambient that is 99% true. the exception is a bong cooler, it can achieve up to 12°f below ambient.

the colder your components get the better they conduct electricity and avoid quantum tunneling. so basically you can overclock higher with the same voltage. personally i would recommend a water chiller. full system cooling down to -10's-20's. you'd achieve much higher "safe" overclock's when compared to basic water or air. tell me this, would you rather spend $1,000 on ambient temps or spend $1,000 and get -20's? the only probably you'll have is noise and a heat dump, which water can be just as noisy. with your current system you could with a q6600 you could get 3.6ghz on air, 3.8-4.0ghz on water and you are capable of 4ghz+ on a water chiller.
    
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i'd say water cooling. if you deal with phase change temps your going to have issues with condensation because your CPU and surrounding parts will get significantly below the ambient air's dew point. so if you go with water cooling you'll never get below even ambient temps.


#1 its called insulation. whenever you go below ambient its needed because condensation will happen.

#2 on water cooling never going below ambient that is 99% true. the exception is a bong cooler, it can achieve up to 12°f below ambient.

the colder your components get the better they conduct electricity and avoid quantum tunneling. so basically you can overclock higher with the same voltage. personally i would recommend a water chiller. full system cooling down to -10's-20's. you'd achieve much higher "safe" overclock's when compared to basic water or air. tell me this, would you rather spend $1,000 on ambient temps or spend $1,000 and get -20's? the only probably you'll have is noise and a heat dump, which water can be just as noisy. with your current system you could with a q6600 you could get 3.6ghz on air, 3.8-4.0ghz on water and you are capable of 4ghz+ on a water chiller.
Yeah I definately don't want to overclock it that fast. Frankly, I haven't had the need to overclock my q66 that fast, but I just want to cool it down, and hopefully extend its life or something.

Not to mention, figured it would cool down my case at least, I understand there is still an amount of heat released with the water cooling, but I would think it would be less than just air cooled case. Told ya I was a noob
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Yeah I definately don't want to overclock it that fast. Frankly, I haven't had the need to overclock my q66 that fast, but I just want to cool it down, and hopefully extend its life or something.

Not to mention, figured it would cool down my case at least, I understand there is still an amount of heat released with the water cooling, but I would think it would be less than just air cooled case. Told ya I was a noob

Phase cooling generates MUCH more heat that watercooling. WC generates about 20-40w from the pumps and fans. Phase cooling generates 100-300w.

Really, what's the point? You want your barely overclocked Q6600 to last 20 years instead of 8 years?

Oh, don't forget you have to pay for that energy. That's at least $100 more year.
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20-30fps in games might certainly be worth it however.
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Phase cooling generates MUCH more heat that watercooling. WC generates about 20-40w from the pumps and fans. Phase cooling generates 100-300w.

Really, what's the point? You want your barely overclocked Q6600 to last 20 years instead of 8 years?

Oh, don't forget you have to pay for that energy. That's at least $100 more year.
Meh, guess it's water cooling for me then.

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20-30fps in games might certainly be worth it however.
Amen to that, but the extra energy is not what I'm willing to pay.
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During winter that will be taken out of your heating bill though, remember this.
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20-30fps in games might certainly be worth it however.
How do you figure and what is your frame of reference?
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During winter that will be taken out of your heating bill though, remember this.
with as much as natural gas is right now, that would be a welcome plus. Not to mention I'd probably sign up for that folding@home thing program, whatever it is.

I should just put my server back online on my network and fold that all day long lol.

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At least from what I've asked (and I've been asking the best uses for phase here on your computer systems), the CPU is very much the basis of the system, doubling or gaining a large percentage of power in the CPU will gain alot at the game end.
Just hypothetical and all that, however the other way to gain those 20-30 fps might cost more in power and not gain other real performance (like a second video card).
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