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Exactly.
I don't expect everyone to be a "Linux Lobbyist" like me and try to use it as much as possible, I just want people to realize that Linux really is better for a few things. Mainly servers, but also like you said, for being much more lightweight than Windows. This is a critical point, as Microsoft is pushing XP out and Vista in, and Vista has very steep hardware requirements that not everybody can meet, or should have to meet for a simple system for day-to-day use.
Assuming most of this forum comes from a Western background (which it does), there is no reason why anyone should be struggling to get a Vista capable PC assuming they are enthusiasts (which most of us claim to be) or at least tech "savvy".
post #32 of 56
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Assuming most of this forum comes from a Western background (which it does), there is no reason why anyone should be struggling to get a Vista capable PC assuming they are enthusiasts (which most of us claim to be) or at least tech "savvy".
It is possible that there are enthusiasts going through financial problems though, correct? Or enthusiasts that have family members or friends who cannot afford a Vista capable PC? Or people who simply do not have a need for a Vista capable PC? Find an old Pentium 3 machine, throw Xubuntu on it, bam, web browsing PC you can give to your grandparents that didn't cost you too much, and is enough to do what they need- browse the web, email, etc. And also will not get spyware or adware
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post #33 of 56
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PREFERENCE

That sums up any "shoot-out" no matter what the outcome is. If I didn't play games I would probably use OS X (as my main OS, instead of windows right now) as it has all the apps I need (and yes, windows doesn't have some of these apps.) So as you can tell, it's preference.
Try telling that to a blind Linux zealot hell bent on trying to convince everyone that the Linux kernel was crafted by Jesus Christ - Like a damn inferiority complex or something.
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It is possible that there are enthusiasts going through financial problems though, correct?
Extreme case.

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Or enthusiasts that have family members or friends who cannot afford a Vista capable PC?
Then those family members are not enthusiasts and don't care enough to save for it.

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Or people who simply do not have a need for a Vista capable PC?
That wasn't the original issue.

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Find an old Pentium 3 machine, throw Xubuntu on it, bam, web browsing PC you can give to your grandparents that didn't cost you too much, and is enough to do what they need- browse the web, email, etc. And also will not get spyware or adware
Grandparents are not computer enthusiasts either.
post #35 of 56
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Extreme case.



Then those family members are not enthusiasts and don't care enough to save for it.



That wasn't the original issue.



Grandparents are not computer enthusiasts either.
So wait, when did I said we were only talking about enthusiasts here?

What I'm saying is Linux can be useful for getting PCs cheaper for those who could not normally afford it, since the main point of Linux is the fact that it is completely free. Just look at the Helios project, giving Linux-based PCs to kids who cannot afford computers.
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So wait, when did I said we were only talking about enthusiasts here?

What I'm saying is Linux can be useful for getting PCs cheaper for those who could not normally afford it, since the main point of Linux is the fact that it is completely free. Just look at the HeliOS project, giving Linux-based PCs to kids who cannot afford computers.
You quoted me though and I was talking about the users of this forum

Like I said, if you cared enough, you'd save up for Vista.
post #37 of 56
It is preference, but it's also society to an extent.

I think OSX/apple has taken off recently because it has the "wow factor" currently. Every one on earth and their dog have ipods coming out their ears, and Apple computers have become increasingly attractive to the public. One reason is that they're "faster" and that has 100% to do with OEM's loading their computers to the teeth with trialware, also OSX takes a lot less to maintain as it isnt prone to spyware and trojans from limewire and the like.

People are gravitating toward OSX because its the "in" thing to do, but it has become the in thing because, besides the lack in 3rd party support, it is a better solution for most peoples' internet browsing + word processing needs.

Linux and OSX are pretty similar in terms of stability, linux taking longer to get setup and everything, but in the end neither will get bogged down by spyware over time or crash as much as windows.

I love windows, but many people would be better off using something like Ubuntu IMO

That is my opinion, but as a whole there is no "winning" OS.. everyone has preference and specific needs
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How about, I don't care about any more OS versus, Windows XP works well enough for me to keep it and not complain about it, I don't care about anything else.
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post #39 of 56
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You quoted me though and I was talking about the users of this forum

Like I said, if you cared enough, you'd save up for Vista.
I was just quoting you because you said you ran minimalist distros on your laptop, and that is one of the best things about Linux is that there are distros with lightweight WMs that can be used to make use of hardware that isn't Vista-capable as Microsoft pushes XP out of existence, I wasn't specifically talking about people on this forum, or enthusiast users persay.

I'm just saying, some people don't care. Say my grandmom (I don't have any more of those, they're both dead, but just go with it ) needed a computer, but didn't have much money, I could get a cheap AM2 motherboard with integrated video, 256mb ddr2, a single core Sempron, and a cheap CD drive (and possibly a 40gb harddrive if she needed to save pictures or something...if not it could just run from the live CD) and it would run super fast thanks to Xubuntu.
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I've tried out every version of windows from 95 to Win 7. I tried OSX from 10.4 - 10.5. I've tried xandros and ubuntu builds of linux.

I'm obviously a bit of a tech geek, hence I'm here on this site. I can say without a doubt that linux is simply not ready for 99% of the people. Even if you don't consider driver support, the usability is not there. There is no middle ground between the kinda crap oversimplified linux you get with an eeePC and the normal distros.

A normal person, even a person with decent computer skills can easily use linux if everything is already set up in place by a nerd. But if left alone, that person would not even be able to install flash and get on youtube, or some other simple task.

OSX is the exact opposite. It's like steve jobs is that tech nerd that sets everything up for you so you don't have to do a thing. Gained computer knowledge, want to instal a program by yourself? Impressive. Just drag and drop it, congrats.

Windows is the middle ground between those two in terms of usability. And its amazing driver support makes it a pure win.
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