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x264 HD encoding Benchmark added

http://www.hwbox.gr/showthread.php?t=3189&garpg=16
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Hell yea! Finaly reps to you

DAMN that review sucked.

Why cant americans ever get something first besides the Moon and Nuclear weapons?
The English invented Nuclear weapons and we also created the Gyroscope which was in the Apollo rocket which got you on the moon

Sorry to burst your bubble.
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On the contrary, AN7 Overclocker used to be and still is ( at least in his heart ) a AMD fanboy ( notice the AN7 in his nickname ?... AN7 is one of the best boards from Abit back in the Socket472 era ( SocketA ) )...
There are lots of applications and benchmarks used in the review to call it a all around comparison.
There are some stuff missing ( such as some A/V encoding tests, and real-life gaming tests, but they're on the way ).

If you were expecting Phenom II to beat Intel's Core i7 and Core 2 Quad Q9550, there are some bad news for you... it can't.

It barely surpasses the 2.4GHz Q6600 ( Kentsfield ) in average and that is with a 400MHz operating frequency advantage.
Taking in mind that the average Phenom II 920/940 overclock on air will be around 3.6GHz and 3.8GHz... and considering that the average overclock on of a Core 2 Q6600 G0 on air is 3.6GHz to 3.7GHz... the Phenom II will be beaten if both processors are overclocked near or to their max.
you say the average overclock for a 920/940 will be 3.6 to 3.8GHz. With a bad engineering sample and sb600 this person was able to hit 3.8 stable. http://www.overclock.net/amd-cpus/42...enchmarks.html The chips aren't even out yet, so how can someone say on average what the clocks will be?
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I think the members here expected too much from a refined process shrink.
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The English invented Nuclear weapons and we also created the Gyroscope which was in the Apollo rocket which got you on the moon

Sorry to burst your bubble.
Actually 2 german scientist had the idea. That was back in WW1. Then the Americans in WW2 did the "Manhattan project" which was the first one to successfully detonate a nuclear device and use one in war.
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Because the s775 mobo that we had in our hand was the p5e64 WS evolution(X48,DDR3).Thats why we run them @ low freq(and at nehalem rig) to be more accurate.


we have o beta bios that supports fully phenom ii

Can I get the Beta Bios Please?


Seeing how QuantumForce in the Beta bios section does not have it listed, and the FoxconnChannel does not have it listed either.

I would like to see what changes have been made and try it out.
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x264 results are interesting, but seems to show the same trend that has been seen so far.

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The English invented Nuclear weapons and we also created the Gyroscope which was in the Apollo rocket which got you on the moon

Sorry to burst your bubble.
The United States created the first nuclear weapons, and early British nukes were copies of American designs.

The first known gyroscope was made by a German. It was later explained and named by a few Frenchmen.

Both of these inventions obviously depended on numerous other inventions, and uncountable numbers of people, of a vast number of nationalities, had an influence on them. Science and knowledge do not spring into being from nothing.

The English neither came up with the ideas nor developed the first working implimentations of them. Any involvement they did have has far too many degrees of separation to to consider either of these inventions English.

Even if the specific gyroscope that was used for Apollo was an English device, that's pretty irrelivant. There were likey dozens, if not hundreds, of perfectly usable substitutes that could have been used instead.
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you say the average overclock for a 920/940 will be 3.6 to 3.8GHz. With a bad engineering sample and sb600 this person was able to hit 3.8 stable. http://www.overclock.net/amd-cpus/42...enchmarks.html The chips aren't even out yet, so how can someone say on average what the clocks will be?
I just happen to be a reviewer, with access to various hardware and sources in the industry, and also friends from other reviews sites and some normal people with "good connections" with some companies.

There are some shops in Europe that are selling the Phenom II's for 5 days already

There's also a very good indication from the other reviewers samples and some early adopters/buyers who had trouble hitting anything over 3.9GHz even for CPU-z validation on air/water, and we also had some rumors regarding the "early yet exciting" cherry-picked samples AMD used to demonstrate them with LN2 ( Liquid Nitrogen ) cooling for their press events and also shipped some to a very limited number of overclockers & distributors.

We shall find out soon, everyone will be able to get one now, and the average OC figures will show the truth regarding the cherry-picked chips used to create the bogus and enormous hype around Phenom II earlier this month.

The higher the expectations, the bigger the disappointment they say, so keep them low
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I just happen to be a reviewer, with access to various hardware and sources in the industry, and also friends from other reviews sites and some normal people with "good connections" with some companies.

There are some shops in Europe that are selling the Phenom II's for 5 days already

There's also a very good indication from the other reviewers samples and some early adopters/buyers who had trouble hitting anything over 3.9GHz even for CPU-z validation on air/water, and we also had some rumors regarding the "early yet exciting" cherry-picked samples AMD used to demonstrate them with LN2 ( Liquid Nitrogen ) cooling for their press events and also shipped some to a very limited number of overclockers & distributors.

We shall find out soon, everyone will be able to get one now, and the average OC figures will show the truth regarding the cherry-picked chips used to create the bogus and enormous hype around Phenom II earlier this month.

The higher the expectations, the bigger the disappointment they say, so keep them low
I have a few friends that work at AMD and they told me these chips will reach 4.5 GHZ on air with stock cooling.

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Just to be skeptical BenchZowner, I think I'll wait for other reviews. Obviously multiple sources mean different chips, different test setups and conditions, etc.

I'm still probably going with the Phenom II anyway, unless they really are terrible against the yorkies. Honestly IMO, as cool as Core i7 is, I don't see everything in a core i7 being stressed and used by many people for a good while.
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