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Over the last 4 months or so I've many 2x2GiB sets of DDR2 (two mushkin 1066 ASCENT, one mushkin 1066 non ASCENT, two G.SKill 1066 PK, one G.Skill 900 PI Black [that was supposed to be the 1000s, but they sent me the wrong stuff], and one or two other kits I don't remember off the top of my head) and only one stick out of the entire lot has even come close to doing what I need them to do (~DDR-1150 with perfect stability). I've been trying to find decent ProMOS kits, but they are out of stock nearly everywhere, or way too expensive to bother with.

So, even after spending hundreds of dollars of new DDR2 (I've been pretty quick to sell what doesn't meet my standards so I'm not out too much money in the end), I'm still using the same Team D9GMH I've been using for the last year.

Now that DDR3 is really starting to become affordable, I think I may leave DDR2 behind for good. I'm either getting an i7 setup, or keeping most of what I've got and replacing my motherboard with the Gigabyte GA-EP45T-UD3P.

Anyway, I'm looking for some fairly afforable DDR3 that is capable of OCing to around DDR-1800 to 1900, that will still do 1600+ at voltages that won't cause an i7 trouble should I get one in the future. Capacity isn't super critical for me. I could live with 2GiB of memory as I intend to hold out with Windows XP a little while longer.

Any suggestions?
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DDR3 is kind of pointless on an LGA775 chip, so you may as well go Core i7 if you're going DDR3.

As for your RAM, it's very hard to get a 2GB stick stable past 1100. You wind up having to severely loosen the timings, which negates any performance benefit you were hoping to see. You may as well run them at 1:1.
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One of my mushkin sticks does 1140 at stock timings, but the rest of the mushkin only manage 1100-1120, and the G.Skill 1066s could not do more than 1090, though I could tighten the timings a bit more.

1:1 is unacceptable on a P45, IMO. I'd have to use a tRD of 10 with any of my 2x2GiB sets, when I can use 7-8 with higher ratios.

If DDR3 will let me use a tRD of 8 or lower with somethig around a 2:1 ratio, and I can get a kit for less than the price of the higher end promos DDR2 (200-300 dollars) DDR3 will be worth it for me.
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Eh, believe me, i hate having to run tRD 10 on my P5Q, but fact of the matter is, you really do not see the difference in anything but synthetics, & i use my PC to play L4D, not run Everest all day

I was able to run non 1:1 with my Q6700 (ran 8x442 5:6) & my QX6850 (9x400 4:5), but i'm presently quite happy with my Q9550 @ 8.5x465 1:1, since really, the additional CPU speed & L2 cache is far more noticeable than 1:1 vs. 5:6/4:5 ever will be
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