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Hey everyone,

long time lurker, firs timt poster.

I am running the Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3L with a Q6600 G0 stepping chip, cooled iwth a Ninja 2 I just got for Christmas.

I was starting to OC the chip, but I have noticed that while my VCore is set in the bios as 1.31V, it is showing as:

Speedfan: 1.26V
Everest: 1.225V


Can anyone tell me, why are these programs reading my VCore as lower than what I set? Is this a case of the programs mis-reading the voltage, or the mobo supplying less volts than I have requested?

Thanks!
Edited by amorak - 12/26/08 at 6:42pm
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Some boards seem to drop a significant amount of voltage; some drop is normal, for some reason a few boards have an excessive drop. There is an infamous "Pencil Mod" where you take a pencil to connect some tracks to reduce this problem. Do a search for that and also look at the thread that is dedicated to this MB: http://www.overclock.net/intel-mothe...3l-thread.html.

I use CPU-Z and HWMonitor myself, they read pretty consistent.
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Originally Posted by amorak View Post
Hey everyone,

long time lurker, firs timt poster.

I am running the Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3L with a Q6600 G0 stepping chip, cooled iwth a Ninja 2 I just got for Christmas.

I was starting to OC the chip, but I have noticed that while my VCore is set in the bios as 1.31V, it is showing as:

Speedfan: 2-2.13V
Everest: 2.5V


Can anyone tell me, why are these programs reading my VCore as lower than what I set? Is this a case of the programs mis-reading the voltage, or the mobo supplying less volts than I have requested?

Thanks!

Are the 2's a typo? If not, you need to make sure you have the latest version of both speedfan and everest. I've seen other complaints of voltage readings being off like that, and an update usually clears it up.
 
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yes use cpu-z its the most accurate program out there.
and actually theres v-drop and v-droop
v-drop is the drop of voltage from the number set in bios to the number in windows.
and v-droop is the drop of voltage between idle and load.
they are completely normal so unless it seems to be a lot dont worry about it.
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Are the 2's a typo? If not, you need to make sure you have the latest version of both speedfan and everest. I've seen other complaints of voltage readings being off like that, and an update usually clears it up.
Hey, sorry - Yes, the 2's were a typo

I have now ensured that the board is set to 1.31 in the bios, but the two windows programs are showing:

I was starting to OC the chip, but I have noticed that while my VCore is set in the bios as 1.31V, it is showing as:

Speedfan: 1.26V
Everest: 1.225V


But here is my question - how is my G0 still stable at these low voltages, when I have the chip clocked up to 3.2GHz?
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I noticed the same thing today, in BIOS I set my Vcore to 1.5 volts, but in CPU-Z it shows up between 1.4 and 1.448 (it changes). its not really a problem as my overclock is stable. really you just need to set in BIOS a bit more voltage than you actually need.


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Hey, sorry - Yes, the 2's were a typo

I have now ensured that the board is set to 1.31 in the bios, but the two windows programs are showing:

I was starting to OC the chip, but I have noticed that while my VCore is set in the bios as 1.31V, it is showing as:

Speedfan: 1.26V
Everest: 1.225V


But here is my question - how is my G0 still stable at these low voltages, when I have the chip clocked up to 3.2GHz?
thats not too weird, I was able to get my G0 to 3.2 on stock voltage
    
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Hey, sorry - Yes, the 2's were a typo

I have now ensured that the board is set to 1.31 in the bios, but the two windows programs are showing:

I was starting to OC the chip, but I have noticed that while my VCore is set in the bios as 1.31V, it is showing as:

Speedfan: 1.26V
Everest: 1.225V


But here is my question - how is my G0 still stable at these low voltages, when I have the chip clocked up to 3.2GHz?
NP, just making sure. I've seen people post screenies of both programs showing 2+v on C2D's, which is beyond suicidal.

What you're seeing is normal vdroop. This board does it pretty bad, and I know this from personal experience. The reason your q6600 is still stable is because Intel is pretty conservative in their specs. I know my e2160 can be lowered to like 1.18v at stock timings, and I don't have to bump the voltage past the factory set 1.3v until I get close to the 3.0Ghz range. C2D's are just that leet I guess.
 
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Thanks Mr. Mojo, urgrandpasdog andFerdinandII - I appreciate the speedy and insightful answers!

So now I have a question about Temps on my system...
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So I have upped the VCore per th BIOS to 1.45V @ 3.5GHz. How safe is this for a Q6600 G0 stepping chip cooled by a Ninja2?

Also, I have been running Prime for a while and I am seeing 70-75C load temps, with a Tjmax of 95C set - aka reducing what coretemp sees by 5C. I have heard the G0 steppings have a Tjmax of 90-95C, so I assume I was correct in reducing the temps I am using by ~5C?

Is ~70-75C okay for a Q6600 loaded up, or should I reseat my Ninja or turn down the Vcore (and clockspeed)
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