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bravo, well deserved, definitely. dunno bout BEST game of the year, most cinematic yes, most visually impressive on a console yes.

to me MGS only really appealed to fans, not the general gamer. i happen to be a fan and support this game immensley, but if I were a new fan and had i not played the other MGS games i probably wouldnt be agreeing right now.
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thanks mum
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Well for singlehandedly managing to sell PS3 units, and having over the top production value, I think MGS4 deserves this.
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post #14 of 45
no good multiplayer = never ever get my vote for goty
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no good multiplayer = never ever get my vote for goty
oh my god - that is extremely sad. Really really really really sad imo.
What is funny about this is that I was just talking about this recently because RE5 has decided to stick in multiplayer co-op just to appeal to people like you, meanwhile it's going to ruin it for other people because it intertwines with the multiplayer.

Since when did video games have to have multiplayer in order for them to be good?
I'm not saying this in defense of MGS4, because I agree the multiplayer sucked massive balls blatantly, but it was only thrown in there to appeal to western games. Yes - us and only us.

People like you are probably the reason why games focused on singleplayer have degraded in quality over time. Please explain to my why video games need to have multiplayer online to be good? The only possible reason I could think of would be because of lifespan but even then, if the game is singleplayer oriented, chances are it will be a good game (Zelda, Metal Gear, Mario, Metroid) - but why do people like you insist they need a multiplayer in order for them to be considered good games now?

My entire school is like this, and it really annoys me that now I'm seeing it more and more often online because my class, when it comes to video games, are a bunch of hype obsessed morons with no clue about the industry itself. Not that they are stupid but they really have no clue what a classic game is - for example, several have never played Zelda and for the most part don't even know what it is. They only know Halo and Gears of War -.-

This is why games like Dead Space get pushed under the carpet - because apparently multiplayer is a new required function for games now-a-days. I guess I missed the memo!

Sorry for the rant, wasn't directed entirely at you Carl - but seriously..... that's really wrong and stupid imo. I could see several other possibilities on why someone could say MGS4 didn't deserve GoTY here - but not this.
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oh dude, you gone started a fire dissin MGS in an OmegaNemesis thread.

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i don't really play single player anymore, but racing games i really have no option or rpgs like fallout 3

but i almost never play single player with friends or online.

Goty should be an all around package not just limited to one aspect. It works both ways, i wouldn't consider a multiplayer only game for goty. Hell crysis warhead should be a top contender for the spot. $30 NEW, multi and single player, best looking game to date, best engine as well. As well as gta 4, which is multi platform, even more reason.

Once you beat single player, what else is there to do ? i mean yea sure you could beat the game a few more times, then what ? Multiplayer lasts for years, hell halo 3 is still the top game on xbox live, cs s has a ****load of servers also.

Another example of a "good game"
Bioshock, no multiplayer, no co op no goddamn nothing. Once you beat it, the only thing left is beat it again without or with killing the sisters.

I don't know how in the hell mgs4 beat fallout 3, well actually fallout 3 might beat it for user voting.
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i don't really play single player anymore, but racing games i really have no option or rpgs like fallout 3

but i almost never play single player with friends or online.

Goty should be an all around package not just limited to one aspect. It works both ways, i wouldn't consider a multiplayer only game for goty. Hell crysis warhead should be a top contender for the spot. $30 NEW, multi and single player, best looking game to date, best engine as well. As well as gta 4, which is multi platform, even more reason.

Once you beat single player, what else is there to do ? i mean yea sure you could beat the game a few more times, then what ? Multiplayer lasts for years, hell halo 3 is still the top game on xbox live, cs s has a ****load of servers also.

Another example of a "good game"
Bioshock, no multiplayer, no co op no goddamn nothing. Once you beat it, the only thing left is beat it again without or with killing the sisters.

I don't know how in the hell mgs4 beat fallout 3, well actually fallout 3 might beat it for user voting.
i get what you're saying man, honestly. but with all due respect, it DID go up against games that offered an all round package. it just ended up being better.

basically what they are saying is, its better than any single player or multi player experience that we have come across this year. they didnt rule out multiplayer games, the vote just beat them. they couldnt possibly expect everyone to agree though.
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oh dude, you gone started a fire dissin MGS in an OmegaNemesis thread.

well - not really. Plenty of people make little stupid comments about MGS being a movie and not a game, and other things. I don't mind and simply ignore them because it's not only their opinion, but because they probably never played the game before and are just insulting it because it's a PS3 exclusive.

I did that massive rant because he said it wouldn't get his vote due to the multiplayer. Earlier today I just got finished ranting to someone else who made a similar comment about Deadspace. And Christmas Eve too.

It's why games are degrading in singleplayer content and quality. I garuntee thats the number one reason - because devs are learning the hard way that for some reason this generation of people with gaming don't have a heart for singleplayer games. And if it keeps up - we'll all be soon infected with countless numbers of video games with trends like Halo (first had a great story, 2nd so-so, 3rd was flat) but with like a 2 hour singleplayer and the rest multiplayer.
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i don't really play single player anymore, but racing games i really have no option or rpgs like fallout 3
Like I said, I feel thats sad because imo - the single player is the meat of the game. Without the singleplayer, there really is no multiplayer. If there is no story behind a game, then having a multiplayer therefore imo is pointless. The only rare exception would be maybe a game like L4D and CS:S where there really is no story but just endless multiplayer. But if ALL games were like L4D and CS:S - then it would be horrible.

Almost all multiplayer games are driven by story. Halo - the Spartans are fighting against the aliens in Space. Gears - its the humans fighting for survival on earth against the Locusts. In Quantum of Solace, its M16 fighting against The Organization for peace. Now that I think about it, hell the multiplayer is really bland as it is even with story backing.


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Goty should be an all around package not just limited to one aspect. It works both ways, i wouldn't consider a multiplayer only game for goty. Hell crysis warhead should be a top contender for the spot. $30 NEW, multi and single player, best looking game to date, best engine as well. As well as gta 4, which is multi platform, even more reason.
I understand what you're saying and I agree completely with the rounded package thing kinda....
But there, if we use your reasoning, the multiplayer for Crysis Wars is mediocre. Its glitch filled and really boring after a couple of rounds.

GTA4 also has a really mediocre multiplayer. Much worse then Crysis Wars.

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Once you beat single player, what else is there to do ? i mean yea sure you could beat the game a few more times, then what ? Multiplayer lasts for years, hell halo 3 is still the top game on xbox live, cs s has a ****load of servers also.
I hear what you're saying, but it can't possibly be that big of a deal considering there are still classic games like FFVII and others that don't have a multiplayer but people still replay through those games countless numbers of times. I know I've went through every RE game to date at least 5 times. RE3 topping it with over 30 playthroughs..

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Another example of a "good game"
Bioshock, no multiplayer, no co op no goddamn nothing. Once you beat it, the only thing left is beat it again without or with killing the sisters.
Like I said, it can't be that big of a deal. If a game has a good singleplayer, like Bioshock, people still play through it plenty. I for one played through Bioshock 5 times in total. 2 times on the PC and 3 times on the PS3. The only reason I went through it numerous times on the PS3 was for the trophies.

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I don't know how in the hell mgs4 beat fallout 3, well actually fallout 3 might beat it for user voting.
MGS4 beat it in user vote too.
Many people, like the morons in my class -.-, bash Fallout 3 because its singleplayer only. But I garuntee if someone threw in a small multiplayer addition, even if it was something stupid like kick the ball with your friends around in an enclosed room - more and more people would've bought the game and loved it. I would bet my life on it.
Edited by OmegaNemesis28 - 12/27/08 at 4:22am
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