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before you go and buy new cables again, what is your setup consistent of? Do you have multiple invertors or a single? How many CCFL's are you running?
Matt -
I have a Lamptron 4-port inverter. If I connect all 4 CCFLs directly to it they glow well. The problem is only when I use an extension cable for one of the cathodes. I have 2 more cathodes that I run off another inverter that comes with the kit. No problems if I run the cathodes directly off it. Again when I connect a cathode using an extension to that inverter, glows very dim. Looks like too much resistance on the extension cables. Which is why I'm looking for alternatives.

Also a word of advice anyone thinking of buying sleeving kits from performance PCs. Do not ever think of buying this sleeve.
They call it deluxe quality sleeve but is not very different from a shoe lace In fact a shoe lace looks better than this sleeve.
I'm going to send it back to them and also include a piece of the sleeve I purchased from MDPC-X. I truly hope that gives them a punch in the nuts until they swell to the point of bursting.
Another big negative experience I had with them is that I ordered a sunbeam UV single cathode supposedly emitting 29000cd/m2 luminous intensity. What I got in the mail was a Logisys UV single and I can safely bet on my fart producing more light than that CCFL
Edited by maverickpk - 4/24/10 at 6:49pm
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Alright guys.
Time for some pics

Currently running Prime 95 64-bit Large FFT. Temps are at 53C on 100% load(screenshot attached) and fans running at 100%.
What do you think of those temps? Should they be lower considering the fact that I'm running stock right now?
If you think they are high, I'd be worried to even begin OC'ing this thing.

Let me know
Mav




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Also a word of advice anyone thinking of buying sleeving kits from performance PCs. Do not ever think of buying this sleeve.
They call it deluxe quality sleeve but is not very different from a shoe lace In fact a shoe lace looks better than this sleeve.
I love that sleeving. I use the 1/4-inch stuff for fan cables all the time. I just ordered another fifty feet of it. It really makes things lay down and behave. Did some tonight, in fact.
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@maverickpk
Where are you "extending"? Power to inverter, or inverter to CCFL?
In general:
thin cables cannot carry as much power = use larger diameter wire!
Each connection = Loss (this is obviously made worse if the connectors have poor contact)

Solution is either make your own cables, or use a second inverter.

@BrokeBain
If mattbe's suggestion of using 5.25" hot swap cage isn't feasible......
You could replace the existing 3.5" cage with a 5.25" hot swap cage and remove the metal which makes it fit in a 5.25" bay, and any unnecessary door or fan. Example LianLi EX-H34. But be careful, the cage may loose mechanical stability. Also, without the original 3.5" cage installed, the 5.25" cage looses a significant amount of lateral stability.

I have tried in vain to get just the hot swap pcb, but those that one can buy (Zalmann) don't fit, and those that do fit are not for sale (Corsair part from Obsidian 800).

@matt2e
you don't have to cut out the sidepanel: advantage of hot swap is that you can swap while the system is running, and you don't have to remove the other sidepanel.
     
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@maverickpk
Where are you "extending"? Power to inverter, or inverter to CCFL?
In general:
thin cables cannot carry as much power = use larger diameter wire!
Each connection = Loss (this is obviously made worse if the connectors have poor contact)

Solution is either make your own cables, or use a second inverter.
Inverter to CCFL.
These are the ones I purchased
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@matt2e
you don't have to cut out the sidepanel: advantage of hot swap is that you can swap while the system is running, and you don't have to remove the other sidepanel.
I know that you dont have to, but the whole point of using a hot swappable drive bay, IMO, is ease of access> Cutting out a drive bay hole in the side panel would allow you to remove the drive(s) without having to remove the side panel.

Could you remove the panel and swap the drives? Absolutely, but for me that would defeat the whole purpose.

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Where are you "extending"? Power to inverter, or inverter to CCFL?
In general:
thin cables cannot carry as much power = use larger diameter wire!
Each connection = Loss (this is obviously made worse if the connectors have poor contact)

Solution is either make your own cables, or use a second inverter.
You bring up a good point, which is why I was asking how his CCFL's were setup. If hes running into problems with the extensions, perhaps relocating his invertor and getting a 12v power extension would be more feasible.

If the CCFL's arent losing lumens by being connected to the invertor without the extensions then obviously thats the problem, you could have a bad crimp on a termination or the wires may not be the correct gauge for that application. Either way, if you troubleshooted and found the extensions to be defective you should return them and try and either get replacements, or a refund.

Let us know how that goes.
Edited by Mattb2e - 4/24/10 at 11:59pm
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Matt - Like I mentioned before, they glow perfectly fine if I connect them directly to the inverter. When I attach the CCFL to the inverter with this extension calbe in between, only 3/4th of the tube glows, sometimes even half. I bought 6 of these and tried them all and all have the same behavior. These things aren't even worth RMA'ing. I'll end up paying more for the shipping anyway.
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Alright guys.
Time for some pics

Currently running Prime 95 64-bit Large FFT. Temps are at 53C on 100% load(screenshot attached) and fans running at 100%.
What do you think of those temps? Should they be lower considering the fact that I'm running stock right now?
If you think they are high, I'd be worried to even begin OC'ing this thing.

Let me know
Mav
Any comments on the temps guys? If I turn the fans to 50% I'm reading 56C at 100% load
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In all honesty I believe your temps look good for an i7 at stock clocks but take my word with a grain of salt cause Im rocking amd I know for a fact though that the i7's do run hot in the first place so....
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@maverickpk
Under load, temps of 53° are OK. And if they only increase by 3° when you reduce the fan speed to 50%, that is great!

As for your extension cable: report your findings tp performance pcs. They will probably give you a coupon! But as far as a solution goes: you will just have to built your own cables with thicker wire, or get a second inverter if that helps you avoid needing extensions. Even if that means you need to extend the power supply to inverter cable (always using power supply type cables!!!).
     
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