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I'd rather invest in a Lian-Li PC-A70F which is built much better, has many of the same features but better tool free designs.
Honestly, I've learned to hate tool-free designs, except where storage drives are concerned (Thermaltake and lower-end CM cases have even gotten that wrong in execution, though). With only a couple exceptions, tool-free features are typically plastic clips or holders that are far outlasted by the rest of the case, and from what I've seen over the years, screwing in your devices secures them FAR better than using a tool-free device. An excellent compromise is to use thumb screws, and in fact Lian Li now has those for motherboards and has been including them with some of their cases (though if you use a screwdriver on those you'll strip the head pretty fast), so you still don't have to use a screwdriver but you don't have to worry about anything coming loose, save if the screw de-threads.
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Well the A90 is a mid-tower with very unique styling. the A90 is has less room and no cable management holes. Max video card length is 11 inches/28cm.
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Honestly, I've learned to hate tool-free designs, except where storage drives are concerned (Thermaltake and lower-end CM cases have even gotten that wrong in execution, though). With only a couple exceptions, tool-free features are typically plastic clips or holders that are far outlasted by the rest of the case, and from what I've seen over the years, screwing in your devices secures them FAR better than using a tool-free device. An excellent compromise is to use thumb screws, and in fact Lian Li now has those for motherboards and has been including them with some of their cases (though if you use a screwdriver on those you'll strip the head pretty fast), so you still don't have to use a screwdriver but you don't have to worry about anything coming loose, save if the screw de-threads.
I don't like cheap plastic tool free designs either. Lian-Li has aluminum optical drive bay locks with rubber, but the problem is it's only on one side of the case like all tool free 5.25" locks I've encountered. So you would end up screwing it in on the other side.

But Lian-Li doesn't use cheap plastic tool free designs. Their expansion slot locks are aluminum and supposedly hold with lots of force and they have rubber on them. I've never heard any complaints about their expansion slot clips. Their tool free PSU holder looks nice too, but I've never used such a device. Their hard drive trays look cool (see the PC-B70). They're aluminum, they seem to have thumbscrews with rubber washers preinstalled so all you have to do is place the drive in there and snap it in with a little clip on the top of the hard drive cage.
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I don't like cheap plastic tool free designs either. Lian-Li has aluminum optical drive bay locks with rubber, but the problem is it's only on one side of the case like all tool free 5.25" locks I've encountered. So you would end up screwing it in on the other side.
There's also an issue with using 5.25" devices other than optical drives; fan controllers and bay-mounted screens and water cooling reservoirs often don't lock in with such devices. This is why I'm glad CM thought to leave screw pass-throughs in their tool-free push-button drive system (otherwise I wouldn't have been able to secure my Rheobus), but it's still cheap.
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There's also an issue with using 5.25" devices other than optical drives; fan controllers and bay-mounted screens and water cooling reservoirs often don't lock in with such devices. This is why I'm glad CM thought to leave screw pass-throughs in their tool-free push-button drive system (otherwise I wouldn't have been able to secure my Rheobus), but it's still cheap.
How about some new pics of ur rig, Lord Chimp?
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You know, I was thinking about that earlier, because a couple weeks ago I broke down the system (as in, disassembled, don't freak out ) to try to change out my 8-pin extension, which due to absolutely stupid circumstances was unsuccessful, and I KNOW I had taken pics of it after I put it all back together, but I can't find the photos on my camera. Not sure what happened, honestly.

But uh, I will note that the only thing I've actually changed is that I removed the velcro ties that were going around the motherboard tray frame, making it look a tad cleaner. Otherwise, I'll find and post up my most recent photo, which was before I did that. Should only take a minute.

Edit; all right, here it be, next time I open it up I'll take pics and make sure I get 'em on the system before they magically vanish :

Edit2; just realized I'd already posted that pic along with a few others; check this post: http://www.overclock.net/9326999-post1572.html
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post #2387 of 4392
dude with all them PSU cables rouuted behind the mobo tray how do u manage close the back side panel??

Also for some reason after seeing them shots I believe the case looks better with the silver interior
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CC, Those pictures are from May. That is unacceptable. New pictures, pronto!
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All right, all right. When I get up again I'll open it up and get new photos.

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dude with all them PSU cables rouuted behind the mobo tray how do u manage close the back side panel??
I line it up, hold the bottom lined up with my right leg, hold the top lined up with my right arm, and it just glides in place. There's barely any bulge to the side of it, but I do have to put my whole body into it.

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Also for some reason after seeing them shots I believe the case looks better with the silver interior
It's all to do with the powder coat, really. I covered most of the details back when I was having it done (look around late January/early February 2009 in this thread).
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I have all of my cables back there too. As Chunky_Chimp explained, it's not the easiest thing to do.
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