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post #3231 of 4392
Oh yeah, overlooked that one also in one of your earlier posts!
Can you try and explain differently: "the tray has bent edges at the HSF access hole which stick out towards the motherboard. "????
What is HSF?
     
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post #3232 of 4392
Heat Sink Fan.

Are you talking about a defective tray or the normal lip that forms around the edges of the hole and also the cable management holes?
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post #3233 of 4392
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Originally Posted by mru View Post
Oh yeah, overlooked that one also in one of your earlier posts!
Can you try and explain differently: "the tray has bent edges at the HSF access hole which stick out towards the motherboard. "????
What is HSF?
Here are some pics (4 of them) to try to show what I mean:

http://imgur.com/MXL1s&XTJve&j3KHA&0XOPO

I assumed the edges were "normal", but since my mobotray seems a bit...different, this might be a defect too? Just to make it clear, the cablerouting holes are/were not like this. There, the metal had been bent back onto itself and backwards away from the case.


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Originally Posted by ehume View Post
Came late to this discussion.

Most of my cases use the SAE thread standoffs, but the Lian Li uses M3. It's the only aluminum case I have.

Sounds like the finer threads are going into the softer metal. Makes sense, in a way. My father, an engineer educated long ago, took it for granted that finer threads made a stronger bond.
Makes a lot of sense but everyone else is saying they don't have the M3 thread. That's kinda odd. In that case (pun intended) there must be several versions of the tray... :S Either that or my tray is...different. (insert evil laughter here?)
Edited by Inq - 1/19/11 at 5:36am
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post #3234 of 4392
no worries!
Those are well under 2mm, your stand-off are 10mm.
There is enough room there to route the ATX 24pin cable...
Edited by mru - 1/19/11 at 6:44am
     
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post #3235 of 4392
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no worries!
Those are well under 2mm, your stand-off are 10mm.
There is enough room there to route the ATX 24pin cable...
Well, I've ordered the 10mm M3 brass ones. Will take a while for shipping, guessing more than a week, but at least I will get them. Which is more than I honestly expect from the seller.

Wish me luck! Will post the build log once I...well...can BUILD.
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Ok... neste week my 840 is going for an "extreme make over " ... ok, maybe not that extreme... but here's the projected mods:

1. All black interior
2. Front 2 x 140mm fans
3. Rebuild WC system ( going to add a 280mm rad... maybe change my 360 for a BlackIce GTX )
4. Sleeveing PSU cables and water tubes


Other question... if i intall 2 x 140 fans in the front... will it double the CFM for intake? Or it doesn't work that way?

I have a Yate Loon 220mm fan that i can install... it's rated a 168CFM and 800rpm what's great! But i don't know if i should get 2 x 140mm fans ( 90cfm each ) or 1 x 220mm fan ( 168cfm )



Give me some ideas about mods

Thanks
Pedro
Edited by Pedros - 1/22/11 at 8:36am
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cfm is only one aspect. Pressure is another. Rule of thumb: the larger the fan, the less pressure.
     
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Rule of thumb: the larger the fan, the less pressure.
That's very interesting. Could you explain?

For instance, would we expect greater static pressure from 92mm and 80mm fans?
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NO!
The topic was 200+ vs 140/120mm fans.
And no, the topic is not aerodynamics. The topic is typical specs of computer fans.
     
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Quote:
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Ok... neste week my 840 is going for an "extreme make over " ... ok, maybe not that extreme... but here's the projected mods:

1. All black interior
2. Front 2 x 140mm fans
3. Rebuild WC system ( going to add a 280mm rad... maybe change my 360 for a BlackIce GTX )
4. Sleeveing PSU cables and water tubes


Other question... if i intall 2 x 140 fans in the front... will it double the CFM for intake? Or it doesn't work that way?

I have a Yate Loon 220mm fan that i can install... it's rated a 168CFM and 800rpm what's great! But i don't know if i should get 2 x 140mm fans ( 90cfm each ) or 1 x 220mm fan ( 168cfm )



Give me some ideas about mods

Thanks
Pedro
Sounds great...hope to see final results.

Forgot who posted...but 2x120mm fans on the front works well but 2x140mm might be too large. Static pressure is nice to look at but usually more for heatsinks and radiators. You'd still want to get the most air you can get for case fans (for the actual case) since it's more of a pass through towards your internal components and case pressure than focusing on specific components (my opinion). As for me...I went with a single 150mm fan 300CFM for the front

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cfm is only one aspect. Pressure is another. Rule of thumb: the larger the fan, the less pressure.
Some don't apply to that...*points at self*
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