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I ordered two (2) spare 230mm fans from CM. I get the sense this case is being discontinued. Silver is only available from one vendor and they want $500 for them. That's why I ordered the black case even though I'm months away from doing the build. I also got the sense in some forums that the 230mm fans were not available so when I found them at the CM Store I ordered them just to keep as spares because they are not a ubiquitous stock size like 120 or 140.

Anyway they arrived today and before storing them away I decided to test them by applying 12v. Both just twitch once and hum. Both spin up after a kick start with my finger. One spins up pretty well, the other labors. Both noisy (more mechanical than electrical).

All four (4) fans installed in the case, BTW, run fine with 12v applied from the same transformer.

I peeled back the sticker on the circuitry side of one and there's no hole or plug to lubricate. The reflective CM sticker on the other side does not look like it wants to peel back and I don't want to tear it if I'm going to return these.

Is there a way to lubricate these fans? I can't see into the axle or spindle.

Thanks for any insight.

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@oldguy
Send the fans back. They were probably already once before returned, but the customer did not tell them they were defective. (Or CM just "lost" that info.)
As a general note: fans ought not need lubrification to run. There are reportedly some fanatics who do lubricate their fans regularly, so I have been told. But this is to keep them running smooth longer.

@seven7thirty30
Idea is good.
Question: would it not have been simpler to "sandwich" a 1/4" piece of metal between the Plate and the four Plastic latches (& using longer screws)?
How far does the plate now open? 90°?
You must not have a dust problem, seeing that you are not using the dust-filter.
     
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@seven7thirty30
Idea is good.
Question: would it not have been simpler to "sandwich" a 1/4" piece of metal between the Plate and the four Plastic latches (& using longer screws)?
How far does the plate now open? 90°?
You must not have a dust problem, seeing that you are not using the dust-filter.

I wanted the front logo panel to emulate a car hood when it opens. It only opens about 30°. The front fan is an exhaust. No need for the filter. I modified the case to accommodate a dual radiator that is placed directly behind the front fan with two fans in a push configuration (see my build log, follow the link in my sig). I also put an acrylic shroud on both sides of the radiator setup to ensure the hot air is vented out of the front of the case.
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My case is currently sitting on the carpet, I want to raise it, any tips/hints? I thought of wood of about 1-1 1/2 inches but I don't have a saw only a dremel and I have no clue what dremel discs are good for wood.

So if wood is the only choice for cheap which dremel cutting tool is best for wood?

Thanks smile.gif
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Originally Posted by xxsashixx;13133000 
My case is currently sitting on the carpet, I want to raise it, any tips/hints? I thought of wood of about 1-1 1/2 inches but I don't have a saw only a dremel and I have no clue what dremel discs are good for wood.

So if wood is the only choice for cheap which dremel cutting tool is best for wood?

Thanks smile.gif

Dremel is not the tool. Go to Home Depot and A) go to the molding department where you can buy wood by the foot. Pick something like baseboard or door casing that is 3/4 thick by 3 or 4 wide. HD has a DIY saw hanging there and a table to cut it on. Cut 2 pieces (if you want one front and one back) or 4 pieces (if you want one for each corner). Then double that because you want to stack two to get 1 1/2 thick. Or B) buy one 2x4 stud (kiln dried, don't buy the cheaper 2x4) and have a HD guy cut 2 or 4 pieces, you'll have several feet left over. Better C) stop by any home building or renovation job in your neighborhood and ask a carpenter for some scraps (or just dig around in the dumpster).

I think I'm going to replace the stock feet with taller feet to give about 1 1/2 clearance even on a plain surface just to give better intake airflow. HD or any hardware store has lots to choose from. You could do that too. Larger size mounting studs (1/4-20 or 5/16-16) may require me to replace the steel cross pieces inside the case with something that will take a larger than stock drilled and tapped hole... but I may do that anyway and move that crossbar outside (under) the case which will make it easier to mod the PSU filter so it is serviceable from outside rear if I mount a bottom intake fan inside the case.
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Originally Posted by xxsashixx;13133000 
My case is currently sitting on the carpet, I want to raise it, any tips/hints? I thought of wood of about 1-1 1/2 inches but I don't have a saw only a dremel and I have no clue what dremel discs are good for wood.

So if wood is the only choice for cheap which dremel cutting tool is best for wood?

Thanks smile.gif

I don't know where you reside but if in your area people throw out desks or like furniture you can use a piece of that wood material off of that in which I didn't need to cut and use it like here in my photo which my HAF 912 sits on:

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Quote:
Originally Posted by nickt1862;13135216 
I don't know where you reside but if in your area people throw out desks or like furniture you can use a piece of that wood material off of that in which I didn't need to cut and use it like here in my photo which my HAF 912 sits on:

picture.php?albumid=3818&pictureid=21854

Ah cool, thanks I might do that but I think I might use 2x 1 - 1 1/2 thickness wood for one on the front and one on the back, as the ATCS has bottom intake
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Ah cool, thanks I might do that but I think I might use 2x 1 - 1 1/2 thickness wood for one on the front and one on the back, as the ATCS has bottom intake

My HAF 912 has the PSU bottom intake as well, but if you are placing it on carpet you're better off that the whole area under the case is with wood so that no area of carpet directly underneath the case will be a dust producer for the bottom fan(s) of your case.

I had a Black ATCS 840 case for a few weeks earlier this year (had to let it go because it was just too big for the space I have) and know that case fan setup well.wink.gif
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If anybody is interested, Cooler Master is selling refurbished silver ATCS 840s for $100 + shipping here (my thread). I would love to have an excuse to work with one of them - maybe you do. tongue.gif
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If anybody is interested, Cooler Master is selling refurbished silver ATCS 840s for $100 + shipping here (my thread). I would love to have an excuse to work with one of them - maybe you do. tongue.gif

I had seen that a month or so ago. Actually I think they don't have any to ship. There is a button for "add to wish list" but no to purchase. At that time only one vendor had silvers in stock and wanted $500 for them. So I ordered black and have gotten used to the idea.
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