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If you must know my setup...

I'm just really frustrated in making the decision as I know my alternatives.

-Getting a 4-bay external enclosure instead to put the 4x 2TB Barracuda XT.
-Adding 2x 2TB Barracuda XT to expand the current 4x 2TB Barracuda XT leaving me to decide where to put 2 drives in the case with all bays occupied.

The idea just popped in my head as I just wanted some feedback on how it sounded. However, the 4-bay external enclosure is still the best idea which was my primary decision in the first place...even though I'll have to deal with slow read/write speeds. I'm currently playing the waiting game whether new drives or new prices show up.

Thanks for taking the time to explain that. You do have massive storage requirements. Seems like you are pushing the limits - in that regard - of a "desktop" ATX footprint. Even in the spacious ATCS 840. When I decided on this case I also looked at two bigger cases: one was Lian-Li and I can't recall the other one, one was a big cube, server case and the other was a tall, double-wide HTPC case. I won't ever need the number of HDDs you do so I decided on the 840. But switching your entire case doesn't sound like a good plan. And external speed constraints are an issue for you.

So here are two other possibly nutz alternatives.

A) Reading all sorts of threads some focusing on temps and airflow, some on cable management I thought about placing two 840 cases side by side. The 2nd one to the right. The facing side panels would go away and the cases bolted, riveted, velcroed whatever you want, together... Take the MOBO tray out of the 2nd one. The PSU could move to the 2nd one - top or bottom - isolating any heat and creating better airflow to the expansion slots (especially GPU) and then most wiring is in the new room. You've added 6 new 3.5" bays and 6 new 5.25" bays. And you could do all internal cabling and keep the speed advantage. Do whatever you need/want with fans depending on heat.

Some people talk about stumbling on scrapped cases (you wouldn't need a MOBO tray or side panels) but that's hit or miss. Refurbished 84os show up at the CM Store.

B) I've seen a couple of mods that cut up a 2nd case and added another floor for a WC radiator, but that attic room could just as well be for more HDDs. Neater look, no greater footprint but more modding work.

There are of course the time and money vs performance questions.

Two asides:

is the speed loss to an external enclosure a function of the e-sata cabling, the extra connection, cable length? Perhaps inelegant but is there a way to run internal sata cables to externally placed HDDs if theyt are kept close by?

I'm amused in looking at your descriptions of your drives with the XT suffix. I'm old enough to remember when it was a big deal when IBM announced the PC-XT which in addition to the two 5.25" FDDs had an actual HDD, yes folks in a PC and it holds 10 whopping MB, that's right not kB, MB, 10 of them. Expected in stores soon. The XT was followed by the AT which was abreakthrough with its 80286 chip and HDD standard not an extra and may even have doubled capacity to 20MB.
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I think I've seen those...however doing the modding myself will be a big job to do which itself will require some decent time management. I would rather look into Case Labs cases in that regard even when those are more meant for water cooling. Plus I love my ATCS 840 too much to make a switch to another case.

Getting the external enclosure will be the final decision as eSATA speed won't be too bad compared to USB 2.0 puke.gif. Plan will be...

-replace 2TB XT with 3TB XT drives on current bays
-create RAID-5 array with 3TB XT drives
-hot swap my 1TB 7200.12 RAID-0 with my 2TB XT RAID-5
-copy data from 2TB XT RAID-5 to the new 3TB XT RAID-5 (back to original state with the new 3-4TB headroom)
-hot swap back to my 1TB 7200.12 RAID-0
-put 2TB XT RAID-5 into its new home...4-bay external enclosure in RAID-0
-copy my original data on the newly created 3TB XT RAID-5 to the newly created 2TB XT RAID-0 external enclosure through eSATA
-finally sell/put away my random external drives as the 2TB XT RAID-0 array will be the new backup king if I ever need to take my data elsewhere

If the 4TB drives come out sooner and is priced better...then the 3TB XT will be skipped biggrin.gif
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Plus I love my ATCS 840 too much to make a switch to another case.

"Amén" to that! smile.gif
They only case i would trade my ATCS 840 was for ( don't call me nuts ) a Xigmatek Elysium smile.gif That's a WC dream come true! biggrin.gif Since i'm not thinking about that i decided to give some "refresh" parts to the case tongue.gif
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I think I've seen those...however doing the modding myself will be a big job to do which itself will require some decent time management. I would rather look into Case Labs cases in that regard even when those are more meant for water cooling. Plus I love my ATCS 840 too much to make a switch to another case.

The Case Labs pic looks very clean and obviously wide.

The Lian-Li case pops at a lot of vendors, this just happened to be the first hit.

http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=204&products_id=20821&zenid=915b586a4117c7a51cd1b06ab1d3951c

The other one was Thermaltake, here, but not sure it's current

http://www.thermaltakeusa.com/Product.aspx?S=1134&ID=1414

I seem to remember a radical concept about computers making things simpler rather than becoming a job in themselves. Setting aside the things we do fro enjoyment like modding and tweaking and innovating the IT part of the office sure wants a lot of attention, and usually when you can least afford it!
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Originally Posted by Pedros;13438676 
"Amén" to that! smile.gif
They only case i would trade my ATCS 840 was for ( don't call me nuts ) a Xigmatek Elysium smile.gif That's a WC dream come true! biggrin.gif Since i'm not thinking about that i decided to give some "refresh" parts to the case tongue.gif

Maybe if a new ATCS shows up at COMPUTEX you might forget about that, just not easily. I know I would. tongue.gif The only real complaints I have about the Elysium are the mesh covers for empty 5.25" bays and the fixed mobo tray. Other than that I'd like it.
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Yes... if a new ATCS "came to life" i would be happy ... but i don't think that i would change this year... not after my overhauling of the case biggrin.gif
Edited by Pedros - 5/10/11 at 8:22am
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I can confirm that a new version of the 840 is going to be launched this year. But it may only be an upgrade in terms of black interiors and some other stuff. This part I cannot confirm as all the details were not shared. The reason I think it would be an upgrade of the existing case is because it continues to be called an arcs 840 and will probably have either an advanced or plus added to that name.
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One of my top 230mm fans makes a pulsing noise when I boot up my system. The noise goes away after about 2 minutes of use, but I am afraid it's going to die. Are the mounting holes for 3 120mm fans already there? Or do I need a bracket of some sort to convert the current holes?
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I can confirm that a new version of the 840 is going to be launched this year. But it may only be an upgrade in terms of black interiors and some other stuff. This part I cannot confirm as all the details were not shared. The reason I think it would be an upgrade of the existing case is because it continues to be called an arcs 840 and will probably have either an advanced or plus added to that name.

Interesting, I'd been told that after the prototype last year, they scrapped it and started over with the intent to build what they would consider the ultimate full tower. Considering that, I would have expected them to use "ATCS Advanced" or "ATCS-X" or something similar, with no "840" in the name. But we'll see at COMPUTEX, if they show it off then (high probability).
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Samsung SSD830 128GB / Seagate 640GB+1TB+2TB+4TB Samsung SH-S223Q 22X XTTH | OCZ Freeze | 9G1212H1011 Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 
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Dell U2410f (rev. A02) Code 104 w/O-rings + Vortex doubleshot keycaps Antec HCPP-850 CaseLabs SM8 
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Logitech G500 Sharkoon 1337 Asus Xonar DX + Swan D1080MkII08 + MXL Tempo Lifecam Cinema 
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Deep Blood
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Intel Core i7 920 D0 (Batch # 3901A240) Foxconn X58 Blood Rage (non-GTI) eVGA GeForce GTX670 2GB 6GB Corsair Dominator 1.6GHz TR3X6G1600C8D Rev 3.2 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Samsung SSD830 128GB / Seagate 640GB+1TB+2TB+4TB Samsung SH-S223Q 22X XTTH | OCZ Freeze | 9G1212H1011 Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Dell U2410f (rev. A02) Code 104 w/O-rings + Vortex doubleshot keycaps Antec HCPP-850 CaseLabs SM8 
MouseMouse PadAudioOther
Logitech G500 Sharkoon 1337 Asus Xonar DX + Swan D1080MkII08 + MXL Tempo Lifecam Cinema 
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The Hive
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i7 4790K 4.6Ghz @ 1.24v (Delided)  Msi Z97 Gaming 7 MSI GTX 1080Ti Seahawk X  Kingston HyperX Savage 
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Samsung 840 Pro Samsung 850 EVO Samsung 850 Pro Samsung 960 Pro 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
Kraken X62 Push/Pull Windows 10 Acer X38 38" Ultrawide 1600p CoolerMaster Masterkeys S White 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
XFX Black Pro 1250W Corsair Carbide Air 740 Logitech G502 Glorious XXL  
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Soundblaster ZxR Philips Fidelio X2  Edifier 2730RB + Wharfdate D10 
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The Hive
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 4790K 4.6Ghz @ 1.24v (Delided)  Msi Z97 Gaming 7 MSI GTX 1080Ti Seahawk X  Kingston HyperX Savage 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Samsung 840 Pro Samsung 850 EVO Samsung 850 Pro Samsung 960 Pro 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
Kraken X62 Push/Pull Windows 10 Acer X38 38" Ultrawide 1600p CoolerMaster Masterkeys S White 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
XFX Black Pro 1250W Corsair Carbide Air 740 Logitech G502 Glorious XXL  
AudioAudioAudio
Soundblaster ZxR Philips Fidelio X2  Edifier 2730RB + Wharfdate D10 
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